GR86 GR86 Confessions

Definitely needs provoking to do. I use track mode regularly but treat it almost like Gran Turismo with TCS on but dialled right back. You can still slide, and below 30mph it's very loose but normal driving, unless giving it a bootful out of a junction, it's rare I slide. I'm always cautious though as RWD isn't totally natural to me but is getting there. At higher speeds I've tended to find plenty of grip
 
I've not driven mine since the service in November. Almost having more fun in the old Swift in conditions like these. Started back on the mountains so some of the routes to them aren't the best so it's ideal. Did catch myself looking at newer Jimny's to replace it. Same engine though so only 101bhp but there are turbo kits...
 
According to my Tracker App, the last time I played with my GR86 was the 6th November, after which it was covered, netted and SORNd, likely until 1st February when I'm obliged to run it out, despite any weather, for the second service.
But that's not the worst of it; the cold Winter nights have seen me look elsewhere for motoring satisfaction - I've been caught several times playing Youtube car reviews, often in the afternoon, whilst having Autotrader pages open on my second monitor like a naughty boy browsing the lingerie section of his mum's Freeman's catalogue .... Oh, the shame!

I'll get my coat ;) đŸ§¥
 
So long as you’re not pulling your pud it’s not the most egregious sin you could commit in the office.

Last spin out on the roads before a wash and mothballing in the garage was back on October. At this rate it possible it’ll be having its second service before I break the 2,000 mile mark !
 
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I had not driven mine in the snow before, so a week ago after a snowfall, I backed it out of the driveway just to see how well it would do. Well, it was a disaster! The car with summer tires just spun the wheels and the car drifted sideways toward the right berm. I wasn't able to get any traction to move forward at all. I was able to get the car back into the garage by clearing as much snow from the road and driveway as possible, then salting both liberally with rock salt. That was enough to convince me not to take this car out if snow is forecast or as has fallen. Lesson learned!
 
…That was enough to convince me not to take this car out if snow is forecast or as has fallen. Lesson learned!
A lesson I learned in my Ford Capri way back in the early 80s; fortunately I didn’t hit anything else as my car did a perfect 540 pirouette on a roundabout. Torville and Dean would have been envious…
 
Took a test drive earlier…
I’m guessing I’m not alone in thinking that a 997.1 with rebuilt engine could make a compelling alternative?
Well, in truth it was was a bit of a letdown. I was fully expecting to be bowled over with a sensory overload, but it was all a bit of a faff on B roads - hard to describe, but the engine felt too big, and gearing was really long, which totally robbed it of low-key fun. It wasn’t quite as sharp as I’d hoped having read that this is many folks 911 sweet spot .
My own car felt so nimble and urgent on the way home. Guess I can delete that particular search from my saved autotrader list!
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I've always been one for the ol' addage that 'just because you are on a diet, it doesn't stop you from thumbing through the menu', to-whit I am also looking to partake in some extracurricular motoring activities this year. On my list for test drives are; Ford Mustang GT/Dark Horse, Porsche 718 Cayman S and/or GTS 4.0, Lotus Emira V6, Alpine A110GT. The GR86 will just have to sit in the car park whilst I go play 'away' for a while, but I'll be home in time for tea ... đŸ˜‡
 
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Took a test drive earlier…
I’m guessing I’m not alone in thinking that a 997.1 with rebuilt engine could make a compelling alternative?
Well, in truth it was was a bit of a letdown. I was fully expecting to be bowled over with a sensory overload, but it was all a bit of a faff on B roads - hard to describe, but the engine felt too big, and gearing was really long, which totally robbed it of low-key fun. It wasn’t quite as sharp as I’d hoped having read that this is many folks 911 sweet spot .
My own car felt so nimble and urgent on the way home. Guess I can delete that particular search from my saved autotrader list!
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Air cooled 911 > 997 for low speed, tactile enjoyment.

However, air cooled 911 cost to buy > houses used to cost not that long ago, so probably not much help!
 
I think the only few cars I'd consider would be:
- 987 Spyder
- 981 GT4
It is a very short list and they are way older than the GR86 and more compromised (2 vs 4* seats) and I think I'd hate those cars communities TBH
 
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I'm getting the itch for a new bike. It always happens around now as it's been months since my last ride. But the second I get a go again, it feels like a rocket and I think why do I need anything else. Same for the car a bit. Not driven properly for a good while and apart from a few weeks ago to charge the battery, it's not been pushed. Even thought why do I need this? But again, once I drove it, that thought went. I'd like to try other cars but there's nothing I want to waste some dealers time with as I'm not selling any time soon.
 
I'd like to try other cars but there's nothing I want to waste some dealers time with as I'm not selling any time soon.
I love using up some of their plentiful time.
I used to regularly visit different motorcycle showrooms in Scotland and take out their latest models for a thrash erm, I mean gentle run. Admittedly it did make it easier being a bit more mature in years and turning up on a (then £15k) new Ducati Diavel; I never even had to leave a deposit when I took out a brand new Hayabusa; "you look like a responsible fella" he said as the key was dropped in my hand, "it's got a full tank of fuel, just go and enjoy it" ... two hours later it was back on their forecourt, exhausts pinging like mad, the tank on 'R' and having clocked 167mph along the A91. Noice.. đŸ˜‡
 
...but it was all a bit of a faff on B roads - hard to describe...

...My own car felt so nimble and urgent on the way home...

I had a similar feeling when I drove a 981 Cayman, sounded f*cking glorious, and PASM seemed like sorcery but it it was over geared, over tyred and far too isolated compared to my GT86 at the time. Steering it around the Surrey Hills was a faff. I did put down a deposit but cancelled it the day after.
 
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I love using up some of their plentiful time.
I used to regularly visit different motorcycle showrooms in Scotland and take out their latest models for a thrash erm, I mean gentle run. Admittedly it did make it easier being a bit more mature in years and turning up on a (then £15k) new Ducati Diavel; I never even had to leave a deposit when I took out a brand new Hayabusa; "you look like a responsible fella" he said as the key was dropped in my hand, "it's got a full tank of fuel, just go and enjoy it" ... two hours later it was back on their forecourt, exhausts pinging like mad, the tank on 'R' and having clocked 167mph along the A91. Noice.. đŸ˜‡
I know my Triumph dealer and Suzuki Yamaha dealers are all too happy to test ride bikes providing it's dry. There's a lot of new Triumphs I want a go of so will make a day of it. Cars are another story. Some dealers flat out refuse. Not that I would want one but Ford for example flat out refuse to do test drives on the ST models. "They sell themselves, there's no need" and I've had that more than once as years ago, well before the 86, I wanted a replacement for the vRS which I ended up ekeing out and keeping a bit too long to get the 86. Wanted to have the Focus ST Edition to compare to the Golf R (boring), i30n (actually very good, better DSG box than VW's) and the M140i (utter dog :poop:. Wheels didn't feel connected)
 
I hear a lot more positive test drive stories about bikes. There's a fella that I used to work with who said he regularly went out for a test on some of the new crazy stuff that came out. It probably helps arriving on a big bike fully leathered up with a matching beard.

I turned up to have a look at / test drive a gt86 when they first came out at the ripe old age of 24. They refused to let me test drive it, citing that certain people weren't in and I couldn't book one until he was back bla bla bla. I'm fairly certain they didn't want me driving it because of my age, despite the fact I'd turned up in a 350Z. Given I've since bought a GR86 it's quite likely I would have put my name down for one. but nevermind, their loss. They've since gone out of business too :ROFLMAO:

My favorite test drive was in the FK8 type R. The sales guy was very excitable. around 30 years old and VERY keen to get me to buy one. We we're on a fast sweeping A-road which I know well and he kept telling me to go faster. I don't need much encouragement, but given we we're right at the top of 5th gear at one point I had to politely decline to keep my foot in it, purely for reasons of license preservation. I ended up buying one, which shows that a thrilling test drive of a great car is a great sales tactic. He phoned me up about 6 months into ownership to check that I was still enjoying the car, let me know he was leaving to be a tree-surgeon, and tell me its still the fastest he's ever been.

I have to admit, I understand why some places are a bit cagey about letting people drive performance cars. The GR86 is a perfect example as it's not super fast, but it requires a certain amount of skill to pedal it near its limits without crashing. Especially if the driver hasn't driven anything RWD before.
 
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Bike sales people tend to be more petrolhead themselves, and understand getting someone on a bike is the best way to sell it.

Some of the best test drive experiences I've had were at Bell & Colvill when buying my Elise - the salesman (Jamie - famous in the Lotus community!) was constantly handing me keys to cars, to take out as long as I wanted alone. Even when I was 22 and turned up to buy my first S1 from him, he was super accommodating, although came with me for that!

The test drive of the GR86 was pretty good, too. The sales exec was a petrolhead, and understood the ethos behind the car. He was happy to let me come back and take it for half a day when I said I'd like a longer drive.
 
I hear a lot more positive test drive stories about bikes. There's a fella that I used to work with who said he regularly went out for a test on some of the new crazy stuff that came out. It probably helps arriving on a big bike fully leathered up with a matching beard.

I turned up to have a look at / test drive a gt86 when they first came out at the ripe old age of 24. They refused to let me test drive it, citing that certain people weren't in and I couldn't book one until he was back bla bla bla. I'm fairly certain they didn't want me driving it because of my age, despite the fact I'd turned up in a 350Z. Given I've since bought a GR86 it's quite likely I would have put my name down for one. but nevermind, their loss. They've since gone out of business too :ROFLMAO:

My favorite test drive was in the FK8 type R. The sales guy was very excitable. around 30 years old and VERY keen to get me to buy one. We we're on a fast sweeping A-road which I know well and he kept telling me to go faster. I don't need much encouragement, but given we we're right at the top of 5th gear at one point I had to politely decline to keep my foot in it, purely for reasons of license preservation. I ended up buying one, which shows that a thrilling test drive of a great car is a great sales tactic. He phoned me up about 6 months into ownership to check that I was still enjoying the car, let me know he was leaving to be a tree-surgeon, and tell me its still the fastest he's ever been.

I have to admit, I understand why some places are a bit cagey about letting people drive performance cars. The GR86 is a perfect example as it's not super fast, but it requires a certain amount of skill to pedal it near its limits without crashing. Especially if the driver hasn't driven anything RWD before.
Drove the FK2 and FK8 in the Cardigan dealer unaccompanied. The FK8 in particular was deceptively fast. Chained some corners I know well to find the speedo in a very illegal range. I came so close to buying it but the factory moved and I moved home to save for a house. FK8/FL5 are on my radar as a 2nd car one day. With the GR86 I'd have the best of FWD and RWD. Only need a GR Yaris to complete the set.
 
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Ok, hopefully you can forgive me, but my confession is that I'm going to be parting ways with my GR86 in the next few weeks. It's an amazing car, and really is unbeatable at the price point, but I've given in to temptation and despite me briefly trying to work out if I could afford to keep it as a second car, that really was pushing my man-maths too far.
I have a new Alpine A110 on the way, it's left the factory, and awaiting the final part of it's journey to the dealer (I'm not expecting it to be sat in Derby for many months, surely that can't happen to me again?!). It's a similar car, but also quite a step up in many ways (look, I need to justify to myself why it's worth double the money!). It's everything a much younger me dreamed of in a car, mid-engined, light weight, a rare sight on the roads and plenty of performance, but not too much that I feel like I'm having to hold back all the time (although I think it's around the same performance as 996 Turbo was when that came out, apart from the top speed which I'll never see anyway).
I'm sure I'll miss the manual gearbox occasionally, but as half of my time in my car is in heavy traffic, and I use it as a daily driver, I won't miss my aching left leg on the days I've been stuck in slow traffic.
My GR86 has been loved for the last 27 months and 19000 miles, which is longer than I've managed with my last few cars, but the temptation was too great, and, as they say, life's too short. When I see how little some owners use their cars, that's nearly 10 years or more worth of driving! If I have a car that's great to drive, I just have to as much as I can, but we're all different I guess.
You're a great bunch of people here, and in the few occasions I've met up with fellow owners at Caffeine and Machine and Japfest, it was great to meet you, so I may check in here every so often to see if my car appears with a new owner who joins 'the zoo'.
All the best, and I may see some of you around (if you spot an over enthusiastic Alpine owner looking at your car, reminiscing about their old GR86 at C & M some time, it'll probably be me).