GR Yaris (Gen 2) GR Yaris Mk2 (MY2024->)

Onehp said:
(rally driving can't have two paddles twirling around with the steering)
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This is an excellent point. Most cars with flappy paddles seem to implement them the "wrong" (by my reckoning) way: The paddles shouldn't rotate with the wheel and they should span a significant portion of the wheel's circumference. Bonus points if each paddle can both upshift and downshift, with pushing a paddle away doing the same thing pulling the other paddle does.
 
area_educator said:
This is an excellent point. Most cars with flappy paddles seem to implement them the "wrong" (by my reckoning) way: The paddles shouldn't rotate with the wheel and they should span a significant portion of the wheel's circumference. Bonus points if each paddle can both upshift and downshift, with pushing a paddle away doing the same thing pulling the other paddle does.
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Like in the Mclaren 720s :love:
 
On the belgian Toyota website, you can find a picture where the drive mode selector doesn't say "normal", "track" and "gravel" but "front", "rear" and "track".
This looks like Toyota had the idea to give the drive full control of the awd system. I wonder why they didn't go through with this.

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sandervdw said:
On the belgian Toyota website, you can find a picture where the drive mode selector doesn't say "normal", "track" and "gravel" but "front", "rear" and "track".
This looks like Toyota had the idea to give the drive full control of the awd system. I wonder why they didn't go through with this.
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Same images of the drive mode selector are on the UK, DE, AT, IT and ES sites
 
wooly11 said:
Went to local dealer a couple of weeks ago and was shown a different model in the same colour, I thought it was fine, it is not gun metal grey but it is also not light grey. I would call it mid grey which about tallies with the original launch photos from 12/01/24
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A middle grey like this for example, my ex-WRX had this beautiful grey (code Urban Gray 45A), changing with light conditions. At night looked nearly black.

1) Winter sun in the snow 2) Summer sun near the beach
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3) Parked in the shade
 
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sandervdw said:
On the belgian Toyota website, you can find a picture where the drive mode selector doesn't say "normal", "track" and "gravel" but "front", "rear" and "track".
This looks like Toyota had the idea to give the drive full control of the awd system. I wonder why they didn't go through with this.
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Hmmm, it’s the same on the UK site. It would be interesting to send 280 bhp to just the front wheels, but shouldn’t be too much trouble. The Civic Type-R copes with 80bhp on top of that.

It would be great fun to experiment with sending 100% torque from front all the way to rear whilst lapping the same circuit, adjusting the cornering technique to suit. I wonder where the fastest lap would be and where the most fun, probably not at the same time.
 
area_educator said:
You basically have three avenues of controlling the car: brakes, throttle, and steering (and clutch on a conventional manual, if you want to count that, but that's about tweaking what the throttle does [or doesn't do])

People have mentioned wanting power on the way out of the corner, but even on the way into the corner having the transmission a gear too high or in the process of shifting blunts one of your avenues of control. If it's in the midst of shifting the throttle probably won't do anything and if it's a gear too high then the throttle response will be too slow (increasing/decreasing throttle will be too slow to increase/decrease power) to make adjustments.

You've still got brakes and steering, so it shouldn't lead to an accident. But it's not ideal.

On a motorcycle there aren't too many feelings worse than catching a false-neutral when downshifting into a corner. You've still got steering and brakes, but it feels too much like just being along for the ride.
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Totally agree with you.

Driving well into a corner is even more important than driving well out of a corner in my opinion, and by having the right gear selected, you can set the rate of reaction of the car to the inputs of the throttle.

Great point also mentioning the motorcycle false-neutral example.
It really took my breath away anytime it happened to me, and it gives a much clear idea about how important is approaching a curve with the right gear.

The notes by the testers about the auto gearbox refusing to downshift sometime are maybe the main reason why I already let my dealer know that I'm likely going for a manual Mk2.
 
Michael Knight said:
its not actually worthless, Its fun if you want to play with rear in corner exists
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True. I'm speaking from a purely performance standpoint. 30/70 it gets plenty of rear slide on power off the corner, but with 50/50, it's a prefect AWD slide, with a lot more acceleration. The GR Parts AWD ECU eliminates the Track and Sport. It becomes simply Gravel and Tarmac, sort of like the Mk2 control.

I haven't driven it yet (sat in it this last weekend), but the Mk2 seems to be a lot more competition oriented, and it very well could be less fun to drive on the winding.
 
markku said:
Totally agree with you.

Driving well into a corner is even more important than driving well out of a corner in my opinion, and by having the right gear selected, you can set the rate of reaction of the car to the inputs of the throttle.
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Not on touge at 55 years old :)

When I was in my twenties and well into my thirties, we drove at ten-tenths. That "sixten" in my profile is for six-tents. I don't drive into a corner faster than Ican see around it, and in the GRY, this means going in way under what the car is capable of, which leaves all the fun in hammering it coming off the corner (y)
 
sixtentouge said:
Not on touge at 55 years old :)

When I was in my twenties and well into my thirties, we drove at ten-tenths. That "sixten" in my profile is for six-tents. I don't drive into a corner faster than Ican see around it, and in the GRY, this means going in way under what the car is capable of, which leaves all the fun in hammering it coming off the corner (y)
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You are definitely right, but personally I find the most of fun with the approaching part of the corner, getting into it with the right weight distribution and the right gear, to be ready to push with the throttle as soon as possible.
It's my "driving style", let's say, even when I'm simply cruising, or speed is very low.

This is only when you have full visibility of what's beyond the corner, of course :)
 
More and more people are now thinking there just isn't enough of a difference between Mk1 and MK2. It would be nice to have this and that but nice enough to splash out another 15k - 20k .
I thought this today when I picked up a new Yaris Cross as my daily and someone said I should have kept the AygoX and spent that money on the Mk2 but I smiled and said it would have been 15k wasted on me as the Mk1 is more than enough for my skills. The cash spent today gets me a whole lot more than just a few cosmetic changes and a touch more power. But I did tell him that I will look at Mk3 in 3-4 years as mine will be six then. I hope it will be a powerful hybrid.
 
markku said:
You are definitely right, but personally I find the most of fun with the approaching part of the corner, getting into it with the right weight distribution and the right gear, to be ready to push with the throttle as soon as possible.
It's my "driving style", let's say, even when I'm simply cruising, or speed is very low.

This is only when you have full visibility of what's beyond the corner, of course :)
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Word. Slow in, fast out is the base setting, but clear view nobody else, the scandi flick/trail brake/handbrake before entering the corner and having the car under appropriate 'attitude' through the whole corner is much more fun again. This car is top notch for such antics and keeps my driving under constant development...
 
Onehp said:
Word. Slow in, fast out is the base setting, but clear view nobody else, the scandi flick/trail brake/handbrake before entering the corner and having the car under appropriate 'attitude' through the whole corner is much more fun again. This car is top notch for such antics and keeps my driving under constant development...
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I wish I had more roads on which I can push it to its limit but it's rather hard where I live in Switzerland...
 
Ono said:
I wish I had more roads on which I can push it to its limit but it's rather hard where I live in Switzerland...
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Finland is great country in terms of driving small roads so I welcome you warmly. We have bit boring tax policy but if that's not a problem it could be a win-win. :D
 
Michael Knight said:
Finland is great country in terms of driving small roads so I welcome you warmly. We have bit boring tax policy but if that's not a problem it could be a win-win. :D
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Actually I'm starting considering moving to a country like yours in the future...
I'm really sick and tired of Italy, its insane bureaucracy, and law-breaking at any level as a widespread daily habit by almost all Italian people.
I will sure get in touch with you if I decide moving :D
 
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