GR86 The GR86 : Time for a reality check

What are you guys talking about! It's a manual / analogue car, embrace the manual experience of pressing a button to fold them in. Hell, I don't even do that, I push them in by hand each side. Makes a bit of noise mind you....
 
sim61 said:
Yup, the non-folding-on-lock mirrors is just plain silly. I guess it comes down to ££.
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I can’t even see that justification. The motors are there and the car is likely operating a “bus”set up for many electronic functions. It doesn’t seem wildly beyond the technology involved for it to be a line of code to instruct them to fold on lock as part of the central locking.
 
Hachi-roku said:
I can’t even see that justification. The motors are there and the car is likely operating a “bus”set up for many electronic functions. It doesn’t seem wildly beyond the technology involved for it to be a line of code to instruct them to fold on lock as part of the central locking.
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Agreed.. Which is why its so silly.

Perhaps they want to sell lots of replacement mirrors at a grand a pop!
 
Hachi-roku said:
I can’t even see that justification. The motors are there and the car is likely operating a “bus”set up for many electronic functions. It doesn’t seem wildly beyond the technology involved for it to be a line of code to instruct them to fold on lock as part of the central locking.
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It might be, but it depends on the toybaru architecture. On some OEMs there are specific door control modules.
 
Conscript said:
His gripe about the auto fold mirrors is spot on. The complaints about the suede I'm not so sure about though....


....I regularly touch the top of the doors getting in and out, and like nothing more than resting an elbow there with the window down on a sunny day.
And the suede on the instrument binnacle makes perfect sense, as any sort of hard plastic there causes horrible reflections in the windscreen when the sun is directly above. Happened in the GT86 and one of the most common mods was to switch to a suede covered binnacle.
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I don't get that gripe. Suede and Alcantara look great but are pretty rubbish materiasl. You really don't want it on the high touch areas, it wears so badly, it's goes shiny, wears flat and attracts grease.
 
ZN8 said:
I don't get that gripe. Suede and Alcantara look great but are pretty rubbish materiasl. You really don't want it on the high touch areas, it wears so badly, it's goes shiny, wears flat and attracts grease.
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This exactly. Alcantara is best applied on surfaces that aren't touched often. It looks pretty but is not hard wearing.
The journalist is just off. They also complain that if you forget to fold the mirrors you have to get in the car, turn the ignition on, etc, when in reality you can just fold them manually from the outside.

Regarding this thread, which I think is great, the things I wish reviewers would focus more on is how agricultural the drivetrain feels and how low rent the interior is. For example, the steering column surround plastic is so bad it'll catch and tear fibers off your microfiber cloths. The carpet is really thin and patchy. Almost nothing that looks like leather from afar is. It's all vinyl except for the steering wheel, shift knob, and some small strips on the front seats. The instrument panel is a terrible low resolution affair. Etc, etc.

Outside, the paint has more orange peel than an actual orange.
 
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rpm said:
The steering column surround plastic is so bad it'll catch and tear fibers off your microfiber cloths. The carpet is really thin and patchy.

Outside, the paint has more orange peel than an actual orange.
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My steering wheel surround is fine, certainly no sharp/rough edges. I cleaned it yesterday with one of a few microfibre cloths I've had since I collected the car and the cloths have remained intact! The carpet, whilst not being exactly plush deep pile, is fine on my car. Certainly not patchy.

No discernible orange peel on my silver car either - is it a problem on other colours? What colour do you have? ( Other owners/colours feel free to share your views).
 
rpm said:
This exactly. Alcantara is best applied on surfaces that aren't touched often. It looks pretty but is not hard wearing.
The journalist is just off. They also complain that if you forget to fold the mirrors you have to get in the car, turn the ignition on, etc, when in reality you can just fold them manually from the outside.

Regarding this thread, which I think is great, the things I wish reviewers would focus more on is how agricultural the drivetrain feels and how low rent the interior is. For example, the steering column surround plastic is so bad it'll catch and tear fibers off your microfiber cloths. The carpet is really thin and patchy. Almost nothing that looks like leather from afar is. It's all vinyl except for the steering wheel, shift knob, and some small strips on the front seats. The instrument panel is a terrible low resolution affair. Etc, etc.

Outside, the paint has more orange peel than an actual orange.
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The dash doesn't need any higher resolution, I think it's supposed to give off a retro vibe, ultimately it's only blocks of black and white, how much res do you need? 😄

The plastic on the steering wheel column on the other hand is dreadful, whose bright idea was to have textured it like sandpaper. You leave all your dead skin cells on it if you touch it with flesh... 😳

All in all I think the compromises/niggles are perfectly acceptable for a £30k car on a bespoke chassis. That doesn't get you very far at all nowadays, I reckon some will be unfair as they will be comparing it against a second hand they bought which would have likely cost a fair bit over that £30k when it was new.
 
Useful to continue to collate these issues and gripes and concerns for prospective owners I suppose.

That way folk can decide themselves if specific issues are likely to be inconsequential, deal breakers, or somewhere in between!
 
No orange peel on mine. Agree regarding plastic surround on wheel. Some of the dash plastics and centre consoles mark easily. Storing phone in centre causes rubbing marks over time. I put it in a microfibre cloth now.
 
Never knew there was a button to fold in the mirrors - the test car ones folded in by hand perfectly fine (which is great - my main bugbear with powered fold is the cost when some idiot knocks them.)
 
Anyone else noticed the air buffeting/turbulence if you drive at about 70-75 with just the drivers window down? Its not very nice. Reminds me of a Cavalier I had with a sliding sunroof that had the same problem when it was fully open, it was really bad but if you stuck you hand just into the airflow over the sunroof it stopped, it also stopped if you just cracked the window open an inch or so.
 
v8s said:
Anyone else noticed the air buffeting/turbulence if you drive at about 70-75 with just the drivers window down? Its not very nice. Reminds me of a Cavalier I had with a sliding sunroof that had the same problem when it was fully open, it was really bad but if you stuck you hand just into the airflow over the sunroof it stopped, it also stopped if you just cracked the window open an inch or so.
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I have this in every car if you just open a front window - you're turning the cabin into a drum. On four door cars you can open a rear window a crack to relieve this but on two doors you just have to use air-con at higher speeds.
 
ZN8 said:
The plastic on the steering wheel column on the other hand is dreadful, whose bright idea was to have textured it like sandpaper. You leave all your dead skin cells on it if you touch it with flesh...
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Good Gad Sir! Naked flesh on the steering wheel? Where were your gloves man?! You'll be saying 'Bollocks' to the Queen next! 😝
Never mind the Owners' Manuals - This is what the 'Glove Box' is for 🧐:

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Another very minor gripe to add to the collection of inconsequential niggles we have so expertly curated here, comrades.

The twatting voice control button, which is so easy to catch when driving, resulting in that rather severe, strict, headmistressy woman inside the dash somewhere being very demanding in a way which I definitely do not find in any way arousing, honest.

I've found that firmly saying "cancel" does stop all this nonsense.

I've also found that, if it happens again on the same journey, bellowing "F**KING CANCEL YOU STUPID F**KING THING" does not necessarily prove any more effective.
 
Silver Fox said:
Another very minor gripe to add to the collection of inconsequential niggles we have so expertly curated here, comrades.

The twatting voice control button, which is so easy to catch when driving, resulting in that rather severe, strict, headmistressy woman inside the dash somewhere being very demanding in a way which I definitely do not find in any way arousing, honest.

I've found that firmly saying "cancel" does stop all this nonsense.

I've also found that, if it happens again on the same journey, bellowing "F**KING CANCEL YOU STUPID F**KING THING" does not necessarily prove any more effective.
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Agreed. Often trigger her when parking or when turning left into junctions
 
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