With the change of width did you get a geo after fitment? Trying to find a good geo place in the central belt I find to be a challenge.
GR86 GR86 - What wheels and tyres are you thinking about?
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Renzokuken86
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Have been looking at 225 CC2s myself, how have you found the ride comfort and road noise since switching over versus the stock PS4s?
I would actually say the ride is slightly better than stock on CSC7s. Less road noise too, although it is barely noticeable.Thanks for the advice on not mixing tyres, will take this onboard.
Difference in price between 215 and 225 width is staggering. From quickly reading up on the difference between the 2:
215 better snow/wet performance, ride will be a bit more comfortable.
225 better dry handling, stiff ride and a bit more noise.
I'll do some furthe reading, thanks all, much appreciated
After swapping over to Summer Wheels and 225/40R18 tyres (Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric 6), I had my Geometry/Alignment checked and adjusted by Pro-Grip in Larbert. I never bothered having it done again when I swapped back to the OEM wheels for Winter, as I have the same wider 225s on the stock rims but in All-Seasons (Goodyear Vector 4-Seasons). The service at Pro-Grip is pre-book only.
Ride comfort is better, grip is great for (South West) Scottish weather and there is less road noise than the PS4s. They took us across Europe in Sept for 3500 miles too, performed really well. 140mph steady on some Autobahns for hours. At 18000 miles usage, the wear is minimal so far. With my right foot, that surprises me. I also had the geometry checked when they were fitted, as I knew there was a slight adjustment needed and I wasn't wrong.
Salko_GR
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I got CC2 in 215 size fitted, had my alignment checked after fitting. They have noticeably less road noise filtering in to cabin and touch more comfortable. Car will still loose traction if provoked on a cold damp day, but a way more confident in British winter weather than PS4’s.
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Alignment should not be required for a change of wheel or tyres. It's only recommended as most people never bother to have it done, so it's worth making sure it's in spec when new tyres are fitted. If you know there are no issues with alignment, then don't waste money having it done.
Only time alignment needs to be carried out is if you have had 'hard' mods such as lowering springs, camber arms, etc etc. different size wheels and tyres do not affect alignment at all.
Only time alignment needs to be carried out is if you have had 'hard' mods such as lowering springs, camber arms, etc etc. different size wheels and tyres do not affect alignment at all.
Or it's just not set up right from the factory, which a few of us have found.
Renzokuken86
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Appreciate the input (and from Salko_GR!). I'm hoping to be back in Scotland permanently in the not too distant future so thinking ahead as the last thing I want to do is get stuck in the odd flurry of snow or icy weather, especially when I live on a steep hill haha.
How have you found your mileage compared to the PS4s? I found I was getting around 35mpg travelling up and down between Scotland and Hampshire on the motorway, getting around 32mpg on my short daily commutes just now.
Salko_GR
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Pretty much the same, maybe slightly better on CC2 as naturally in winter I drive maybe 8/10 compared to summer driving on PS4’s.
The whole point of going on all season tyres is that you can drive car almost normally during a cold snap.
The whole point of going on all season tyres is that you can drive car almost normally during a cold snap.
ninjin
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that's fair enough but my comment is that if the alignment is correct, you do not need to redo it for wheels or tyres. Alignment does not change when you change those.
True, I should have been clearer that wasn't the reason for having it checked over.
Renzokuken86
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Does anyone reckon paying an extra hundred quid to keep the tyres 215 width is worth it? Looking like I can get the CrossClimate 2s (fully fitted + 4 wheel alignment) from BlackCircles in 215 for £619.96 vs the 225s for £525.36. Fitting the 225s will likely incur a £25 'change to policy' charge from my insurer so factoring that in too.
So I guess what I'm really asking is are the 215s worth it for an extra £75ish all in? Tempted!
So I guess what I'm really asking is are the 215s worth it for an extra £75ish all in? Tempted!
It'll depend on how it will affect your insurance policy premium, plus the 'admin' charge. Putting wider wheels/tyres on mine added around an extra £20 per year to the policy. I run 8x18" Bola FLE with 225 F1 Asym 6 tyres in the Summer, OEM wheels with 225 GYr 4 Season in the cooler Autumn/Winter. It feels better and more sure footed on the 225s than when I was running the 215s - I get fewer wiggly back end moments out of junctions.
Renzokuken86
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Will give Admiral a ring and see what they say, had taken the admin charge into account but hadn't thought about the overall policy cost. Appreciate the input everyone!
Edit: Just rang them and they said as long as its the same manufacturer then it won't change the policy. Equally they said adding the OEM mudguards wouldn't count as a modification either. Woohoo!
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Renzokuken86
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Bit the bullet and will be getting 225 CC2s fitted at the weekend along with a 4 wheel alignment. Thank god for payday! Looking forward to seeing the difference in tyre roar as 500+ mile trips to Scotland and back with music up at 18 probably isn't good for my ears long term haha.
What tyre pressure are you running with them? Online calculators indicate they should be lower than the stock tyres to account for the size change but wasn't sure.
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Interesting…I’ve never heard that tyre brand choice would affect insurance risk.
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I have tried a few different pressures and settled on 34psi. That's really due to the nature of the rural roads around here and the motorway driving for commuting. I don't think you'll be disappointed with your choice. Payday, it's dayyyysss away for me as yet!
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That just sounds insurance daft. If it's any Pirellis, size or version then no issues, but if you fit a Michelin then it will be. Bonkers. It's like saying I can't get hold of Pirelli P6s to fit my 30year old XJS so I have fitted a more modern tyre from Michelin. Nuts.
