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But you never know, used car market can get ridiculously stupid.
GR Yaris (Gen 2) GR Yaris Mk2 (MY2024->)
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But you never know, used car market can get ridiculously stupid.
Toyota should just bring the Gen 2 GR Yaris to the US. The demand is insane. I get why they didn’t at first. The regular Yaris was killed off here a few years before the GRY launched and federalizing it would have been expensive. But that decision was one of the biggest slaps in the face to American enthusiasts I can remember, maybe only second to missing out on the R32 through R34 GTRs.
The market has shifted since then. Americans are not rushing to dump ICE for EVs. EVs are sitting unsold on lots, mandates are being rolled back, and the future of ICE and hybrids in the US looks stronger than ever. There are basically no penalties for buying gas thirsty cars. Gas is cheap and people want fun cars again.
I have no doubt the GRY would outsell the GR Corolla. I know Corolla GR owners who would trade in tomorrow for a GRY.
This idea that Americans only want big cars is lazy thinking. The GRY is aimed at enthusiasts, and enthusiasts have always loved small performance cars. Evos and WRXs sold like crazy in US. The GR Yaris would do the same, maybe better.
The market has shifted since then. Americans are not rushing to dump ICE for EVs. EVs are sitting unsold on lots, mandates are being rolled back, and the future of ICE and hybrids in the US looks stronger than ever. There are basically no penalties for buying gas thirsty cars. Gas is cheap and people want fun cars again.
I have no doubt the GRY would outsell the GR Corolla. I know Corolla GR owners who would trade in tomorrow for a GRY.
This idea that Americans only want big cars is lazy thinking. The GRY is aimed at enthusiasts, and enthusiasts have always loved small performance cars. Evos and WRXs sold like crazy in US. The GR Yaris would do the same, maybe better.
I think there will be some mechanical expert here who can explain it to me, I have always had dual clutch transmissions so the operation is literally different... in this transmission you notice that sometimes if I stop and shift from D to P directly and release the brake after 1 second the car tends to move slightly in the direction it was going, logically leaving the engine running... for example if I do R-P it goes slightly backwards and D-P goes forwards... is it because it takes "a long time" to disengage the gear? Obviously done on flat ground
Today I finally had the chance to try out the Pirelli PZ5s even better... on certain types of asphalt they are definitely quieter than the Pilot Sport 4s and they also seem to have better grip... but I'm not sure about that because I tried the 4s in the heat, the PZ5s are fine today and it's 10 degrees
When going to park you basically lock the output shaft connected to the wheels. A pawl slides into a toothed parking gear. But these don't always align so the the box will inch the car forward/backward until it slots in.
no I meant where are you from?
Yes, I know that, but I can't explain why it moves towards the direction I was going... your theory is valid with the slope of the road... however, if I wait a few seconds more after I put it in P, it stays still.
I thought about it but in theory it goes into neutral when you put it in P… so it shouldn't affect it
Not yet….
Has anyone bought from Amayama yet? I found myself being asked for EORI at checkout… but honestly, I don't know what that is in Italy…
I have received my fueltank undercovers from Amayama. Did nothing with eori at checkout.
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EORI is only needed if you're a business I believe
I've ordered from Amayama numerous times as an individual to the UK and they never asked for this from me.
I hope it's the same in Italy and the finance police don't knock on my door
But when you enter the address, what do you enter in this space?
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YeahButNoBut
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I've been offline here for a while after I had to cancel my order for a gen2 last year. But here I am again, back in the game to get a new or now used one. 
I've been in contact with my dealer in Sweden about the 2026 model year. I could order a new one next week, system in Sweden will be open for orders in week 42. I'm not interested in the aero package, not my cup of tea. Regular ones do remain available for ordering too, at least in Sweden. Unclear if there are any limited numbers.
Got some interesting technical information today about the changes to the engine/drivetrain due to the new EU emission standard. See below some translated information:
Technical changes from October production:
I find it a tough choice now deciding on going for a new GR Yaris. On the one hand I feel very lucky being in a position that I could, knowing not all markets/countries get proper new production slots. And it's nice to get one fresh out of the box. But on the other hand, there are quite a few very low mile (less than 1000km) dealer demo's available here in Sweden that will save me easily 75.000-80.000SEK (7-7,5k EUR) compared to a new one. I don't particularly like the idea of getting a dealer demo, knowing these are potentially not exactly treated well. However, in Sweden GR dealer demo models can only be driven under supervision (lame...) and any issues will be covered under warranty anyway, so I think having this dislike on buying a dealer demo is just me being silly.... I think I'll give it a few more sleepless nights.
I've been in contact with my dealer in Sweden about the 2026 model year. I could order a new one next week, system in Sweden will be open for orders in week 42. I'm not interested in the aero package, not my cup of tea. Regular ones do remain available for ordering too, at least in Sweden. Unclear if there are any limited numbers.
Got some interesting technical information today about the changes to the engine/drivetrain due to the new EU emission standard. See below some translated information:
Technical changes from October production:
- Adaptation to Euro6e-bis regulations
- Horsepower: no change
- Max torque: from 390 Nm to 345 Nm (−45 Nm)
- Automatic transmission (AT) removed (does not meet Euro6e-bis)
I find it a tough choice now deciding on going for a new GR Yaris. On the one hand I feel very lucky being in a position that I could, knowing not all markets/countries get proper new production slots. And it's nice to get one fresh out of the box. But on the other hand, there are quite a few very low mile (less than 1000km) dealer demo's available here in Sweden that will save me easily 75.000-80.000SEK (7-7,5k EUR) compared to a new one. I don't particularly like the idea of getting a dealer demo, knowing these are potentially not exactly treated well. However, in Sweden GR dealer demo models can only be driven under supervision (lame...) and any issues will be covered under warranty anyway, so I think having this dislike on buying a dealer demo is just me being silly.... I think I'll give it a few more sleepless nights.
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YeahButNoBut
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Interesting to hear an update from you on the installation! I guess plug&play on the gen2? If so, I'm getting these too.
that's some drop in Nm if that happens. Appears Euro6-bis has tighter testing tolerances applied.I've been offline here for a while after I had to cancel my order for a gen2 last year. But here I am again, back in the game to get a new or now used one.
I've been in contact with my dealer in Sweden about the 2026 model year. I could order a new one next week, system in Sweden will be open for orders in week 42. I'm not interested in the aero package, not my cup of tea. Regular ones do remain available for ordering too, at least in Sweden. Unclear if there are any limited numbers.
Got some interesting technical information today about the changes to the engine/drivetrain due to the new EU emission standard. See below some translated information:
Technical changes from October production:
This downgrade in torque seems quite significant to me. Reading more about the stricter Euro6e-bis standard and what manufacturers have to do in general to drivetrains to meet this new standard, honestly does not make me very keen on ordering a new 2026 GR Yaris. The drivetrain will, simply said, be 'pinched' compared to the previous model year. Which was already 'pinched' anyway compared to the non EU spec engines. It just does not feel right to me ordering a new one when not knowing how this new drivetrain feels like compared to the current version.
- Adaptation to Euro6e-bis regulations
- Horsepower: no change
- Max torque: from 390 Nm to 345 Nm (−45 Nm)
- Automatic transmission (AT) removed (does not meet Euro6e-bis)
I find it a tough choice now deciding on going for a new GR Yaris. On the one hand I feel very lucky being in a position that I could, knowing not all markets/countries get proper new production slots. And it's nice to get one fresh out of the box. But on the other hand, there are quite a few very low mile (less than 1000km) dealer demo's available here in Sweden that will save me easily 75.000-80.000SEK (7-7,5k EUR) compared to a new one. I don't particularly like the idea of getting a dealer demo, knowing these are potentially not exactly treated well. However, in Sweden GR dealer demo models can only be driven under supervision (lame...) and any issues will be covered under warranty anyway, so I think having this dislike on buying a dealer demo is just me being silly.... I think I'll give it a few more sleepless nights.
Hope you will find a well kept car. Demo's aren't necessarily bad as car has its limiter for cold start abuse. at least with that price margin you build a forged internals if you ever had any issues.
Just go for the demo, ask for a test drive first and you will know for sure they don't allow unassisted drives. And as said boost is limited on a cold engine anyway.I've been offline here for a while after I had to cancel my order for a gen2 last year. But here I am again, back in the game to get a new or now used one.
I've been in contact with my dealer in Sweden about the 2026 model year. I could order a new one next week, system in Sweden will be open for orders in week 42. I'm not interested in the aero package, not my cup of tea. Regular ones do remain available for ordering too, at least in Sweden. Unclear if there are any limited numbers.
Got some interesting technical information today about the changes to the engine/drivetrain due to the new EU emission standard. See below some translated information:
Technical changes from October production:
This downgrade in torque seems quite significant to me. Reading more about the stricter Euro6e-bis standard and what manufacturers have to do in general to drivetrains to meet this new standard, honestly does not make me very keen on ordering a new 2026 GR Yaris. The drivetrain will, simply said, be 'pinched' compared to the previous model year. Which was already 'pinched' anyway compared to the non EU spec engines. It just does not feel right to me ordering a new one when not knowing how this new drivetrain feels like compared to the current version.
- Adaptation to Euro6e-bis regulations
- Horsepower: no change
- Max torque: from 390 Nm to 345 Nm (−45 Nm)
- Automatic transmission (AT) removed (does not meet Euro6e-bis)
I find it a tough choice now deciding on going for a new GR Yaris. On the one hand I feel very lucky being in a position that I could, knowing not all markets/countries get proper new production slots. And it's nice to get one fresh out of the box. But on the other hand, there are quite a few very low mile (less than 1000km) dealer demo's available here in Sweden that will save me easily 75.000-80.000SEK (7-7,5k EUR) compared to a new one. I don't particularly like the idea of getting a dealer demo, knowing these are potentially not exactly treated well. However, in Sweden GR dealer demo models can only be driven under supervision (lame...) and any issues will be covered under warranty anyway, so I think having this dislike on buying a dealer demo is just me being silly.... I think I'll give it a few more sleepless nights.
The lower torque should subjectively make it more rev happy, and objectively more durable.
The formal emission levels are unchanged, still allowed to emit 600 million soot particles per driven meter (yes meter, not kilometer, else its 600 billion), but the testing RDE and long term requirements are harder.
Whatever gear you were in is engaged by a wet clutch, when shifting quickly enough some oil pressure remains there to drag along the output shaft with the input that always has a bit of drag from the torque converter and the engine still spinning.
My best guess.
YeahButNoBut
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Thanks for your input.
It does make sense to go for a demo indeed. Also fun to travel around to check out a few...
For me the GR Yaris will be a fun car that I will just be using for occasional drives and summer road trips. Not in winter, especially the upcoming winter I won't be home much. In January renovations of my garage are planned...
Going for a demo now is kinda hard to sell to myself. It just doesn't make sense timing wise to get one now when I'll not be using it for months. I'm not particularly bothered by this as long as I can have the GR parked inside my garage, but yeah that ain't happening until well into January...
Ordering a new one does solve both issues: lead time will be approx. end of March, kinda end of winter. And garage will be ready by then. Or wait with with ordering a new one until the garage in January is ready. Then check if any nice demo's are still available. If not, hoping that a new one can still be ordered by then.
First world problems, I know. Feeling lucky I have this 'problem' to struggle with. Still not sure what to do. Feel like at least speccing a new one next week and negotiating a final price. And checking out a few demo's too. Reason is battling emotion. Which will win? We'll see...
It does make sense to go for a demo indeed. Also fun to travel around to check out a few...
For me the GR Yaris will be a fun car that I will just be using for occasional drives and summer road trips. Not in winter, especially the upcoming winter I won't be home much. In January renovations of my garage are planned...
Going for a demo now is kinda hard to sell to myself. It just doesn't make sense timing wise to get one now when I'll not be using it for months. I'm not particularly bothered by this as long as I can have the GR parked inside my garage, but yeah that ain't happening until well into January...
Ordering a new one does solve both issues: lead time will be approx. end of March, kinda end of winter. And garage will be ready by then. Or wait with with ordering a new one until the garage in January is ready. Then check if any nice demo's are still available. If not, hoping that a new one can still be ordered by then.
First world problems, I know. Feeling lucky I have this 'problem' to struggle with.
Still not sure what to do. Feel like at least speccing a new one next week and negotiating a final price. And checking out a few demo's too. Reason is battling emotion. Which will win? We'll see...I think yours is the most sensible theory... thanks... because honestly I can't find any logic... sometimes it does it, sometimes it doesn't... sometimes I have to wait a second longer so as not to hear it, sometimes less is enough... I have to check if it depends on the gearbox oil temp (since it will change the fluidity)... the important thing is that it isn't a symptom of something else
