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If you actually consider the answers given by Duke and apply your concern diligently and consistently, you would change to EV tomorrow 😬


Yes but @Duke have you considered that EV no go brum brum?
Yes some do, see Ioniq 5 N topic here. Love brum brum. Not just bruuuuuum. But, brum, brum with gears! And AMG, M, Audi RS and now even Porsche have indicated they are working on brum, brum, too.

Love my brum, brum ❤️❤️

Most people don't want or need it though, they prefer 7 series, S-class, Lexus or RR/Bentley silent whispering 🤫
 
A bit unexpected but I have found myself now owning a BEV after never considering one until about 2 weeks ago.

Whilst a GR86 can quite easily be a daily, it does have some limitations, and I was left with a degree of guilt. Cramming people in the back seats seemed like punishment, having a 15kg bottle of BBQ gas buckled up on the passenger seat didn’t seem sensible either. I’ve found myself doing tip runs, a lot of stop start urban driving and short trips where the engine oil was barely getting to temperature, burning through fuel with less than 25mpg. This is not what I wanted to be doing in an 86. The options were to sell it on for something more practical, which was never a real option, the other was for me to go back to a 2 car setup.

Car 2’s sole purpose was to plug those gaps, it needed a hatch boot for bulky items, be automatic and relatively compact to deal with urban driving, have low running costs and the ability to ferry 4 normal size adults around in some degree of comfort.

I wasn’t short of ICE options, but I then thought about those short trips, sitting in traffic, and burning fuel unnecessarily , what about an EV? I set a basic filter on Autotrader to search for EVs in my price range and to my surprise over 1000 cars returned in the search.

My budget put me in a category which covered quite a few models, most completely competent and respectable, yet the only one that I was curious about was a BMW i3. It came across as a perfect solution.

Aside from its peculiar looks, I’ve never taken much notice of the i3, yet after watching a few videos and reading articles, it turns out it’s extremely clever and perhaps misunderstood, a genuine concept car put into production, which was well over a decade ahead of its time with some impressive design and material science.

The chassis is a carbon fibre tub, the batteries are modular, replaceable and use refrigerant cooling, which I think is still unique to EVs even today. At 1345kg it weighs the same as an ICE equivalent, 25% of the interior is made from recycled material, the seats are allegedly the lightest ever tested, including those used in aviation. The interior has won design awards, and owners reviews online are overwhelmingly positive. For a car nut and an Engineer this struck a chord for me. I was taken back by this pug faced fridge freezer.

Autotrader had options ranging from £5k to £21k and thanks to the UKs general resistance and wariness to BEVs, my budget just about stretched to buy, tax, and insure a 2019 facelift model with below average mileage and the largest battery available (42kWh) for £9k.

Aside from the journey home, I’ve only whizzed around town in it for a week but so far, I think it’s absolutely brilliant, genuinely fun to scoot around town in and guilt free. As the UK’s inventory of 2nd hand BEVs continues to grow, I wouldn’t be surprised if this becomes a more widespread setup for car enthusiasts.


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Great post 👍. I've always admired these cars for the reasons you've outlined. I have a 2017 much loved 335D xDrive touring owned for 9yrs and which I adore but most of the journeys are just me, with occasional passenger seat occupant. Beyond that, we have replaced my wife's Skoda Yeti with a Skoda Karoq (with Varioflex seats - IYKYK) which is plenty big enough so the sensible decision would be to downsize the 335 but I could only do that to something with a similar amount of car cool, as measured through my peculiar eyes.

Did you look at the range extender models?

Auto trader here I come 😁
 
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I ruled out the REX models out straight away as it made no sense to me. It takes away a lot of the advantages of a BEV, you now have an electric vehicle with an engine that needs to be maintained and used, they can be problematic if they aren’t used often allegedly. I think the REX models were needed during the early life of the i3 to boost the range as battery tech and range were limited back then.

With the largest battery its got more than adequate range for my use case, (WLTP 192miles) which makes the REX completely redundant, not to mention BMW dropped it around the time of the facelift which is what I was looking for.
 
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A bit unexpected but I have found myself now owning a BEV after never considering one until about 2 weeks ago.

Whilst a GR86 can quite easily be a daily, it does have some limitations, and I was left with a degree of guilt. Cramming people in the back seats seemed like punishment, having a 15kg bottle of BBQ gas buckled up on the passenger seat didn’t seem sensible either. I’ve found myself doing tip runs, a lot of stop start urban driving and short trips where the engine oil was barely getting to temperature, burning through fuel with less than 25mpg. This is not what I wanted to be doing in an 86. The options were to sell it on for something more practical, which was never a real option, the other was for me to go back to a 2 car setup.

Car 2’s sole purpose was to plug those gaps, it needed a hatch boot for bulky items, be automatic and relatively compact to deal with urban driving, have low running costs and the ability to ferry 4 normal size adults around in some degree of comfort.

I wasn’t short of ICE options, but I then thought about those short trips, sitting in traffic, and burning fuel unnecessarily , what about an EV? I set a basic filter on Autotrader to search for EVs in my price range and to my surprise over 1000 cars returned in the search.

My budget put me in a category which covered quite a few models, most completely competent and respectable, yet the only one that I was curious about was a BMW i3. It came across as a perfect solution.

Aside from its peculiar looks, I’ve never taken much notice of the i3, yet after watching a few videos and reading articles, it turns out it’s extremely clever and perhaps misunderstood, a genuine concept car put into production, which was well over a decade ahead of its time with some impressive design and material science.

The chassis is a carbon fibre tub, the batteries are modular, replaceable and use refrigerant cooling, which I think is still unique to EVs even today. At 1345kg it weighs the same as an ICE equivalent, 25% of the interior is made from recycled material, the seats are allegedly the lightest ever tested, including those used in aviation. The interior has won design awards, and owners reviews online are overwhelmingly positive. For a car nut and an Engineer this struck a chord for me. I was taken back by this pug faced fridge freezer.

Autotrader had options ranging from £5k to £21k and thanks to the UKs general resistance and wariness to BEVs, my budget just about stretched to buy, tax, and insure a 2019 facelift model with below average mileage and the largest battery available (42kWh) for £9k.

Aside from the journey home, I’ve only whizzed around town in it for a week but so far, I think it’s absolutely brilliant, genuinely fun to scoot around town in and guilt free. As the UK’s inventory of 2nd hand BEVs continues to grow, I wouldn’t be surprised if this becomes a more widespread setup for car enthusiasts.


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SNAP.... I've just done the same exercise and purchased a BMW i3s, four weeks ago...... and in Stormtrooper White🙂. My thinking was very similar to yours, I particularly liked the innovative engineering employed by BMW in developing the i3, not dissimilar to how Toyota develop their GR's .

Our i3s (my wife is the registered owner) is our daily for local use. I also have access to a GR Yaris (Gen 2) and a Audi RS3, but for local use the i3s is just brilliant (y)
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I've noted that a number of Petrolheads with access to performance cars also have an BMW i3(s).
 
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Haha nice. Sunroof too! I think Hotpoint white contrasting against the black looks the best.

I couldn't stretch to an S but I might review my situation this time next year for an upgrade.

How do you find the ride? its supposed to be quite firm.
 
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Congrats. I too was looking at the 2 car garage option next to my former GRY and the i3s was my clear favourite. Similar weight and good fun to drive, and still ahead of it's time. Like the Audi A2 an engineers car ahead of its time and not really profitable as too much nice materials used.
With aftermarket battery replacement options incl larger ones, it's bound to keep a least some form of entusiast ownership. That said 9k is a steal, over here the facelift big battery is like 16k with lowish miles and then still like one in four is exported...

Until there is a widespread offering of truly* enthusiast cars with electric drivelines, the 2 car garage is by far the most sensible fun way forward to get the best from modern motoring for the forseeable future.

Enjoy!


*imho only one model right now that happened to be a perfect fit for my circumstances
 
BTW, the Mokka GSE caught some of my attention. It's apparently based on FIA eRally 5 regulations (frist) with special attention to driveline and Bilstein suspension and steering and some nice looking brakes and a LSD. 280hp and not too heavy 1,5 tonne looks ok to have fun.

Curious how driver enthusiastic the actual execution will be and if the 2026 rally series will be any good.

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On first quick look, and a reply from a German battery supplier (Mandrill Automotive), a replacement i3 battery is around £9k! Ouch
 
On first quick look, and a reply from a German battery supplier (Mandrill Automotive), a replacement i3 battery is around £9k! Ouch

I did look into this, the BMW BMS is very good on the i3, the batteries tend not to be an issue and last very well, however should you need to replace the battery there is also an option to DIY a replacement from Taiwan. A firm called Martigi will sell you an originally sized 120Ah (42KWh) or an even larger 154Ah (54KWh) battery. A whole unit 154Ah battery is £4,350 ex vat and shipping, or if you are feeling brave and want to save money you can just buy the cells and BMS for £3,600.

Here is their website, there is also a video showing whats involved in replacing the battery.

https://mtgbattery.com/

If you was to order one you'd need to order it off Alibaba of all places. :LOL:
 
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Great choice. If I had the space I'd probably have an i3 to augment the GR too. Or maybe a Honda E
 
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Was looking around at what Imight replace my Yaris Cross and fancied the Enyaq VRS or Cupra Born VZ and then found this.
My 1970s house is on a looped power supply. My box has one cable in from the pavement up my drive then another cable coming out and going under the house to next door.
Northern power grid engineer came to inspect and explained that I can't have a wall box right now. Both houses have solar panels which take that one cable to its limit. A heat pump would have also done it plus one of the houses getting a wall box.
This means my neighbours nice drive needs digging up and will leave a scar after repair. I offered the solution of putting next doors cable up my old drive and connecting it to the cable that runs under the houseds to her wall box but no joy as they say her drive must come up. She is over 80 and recovering from serious ilness so won't even mention it to her.
He said he doesn't understand why the government is pushing all electric when millions of people can't have a wall box and it will take them decades to unloop houses or solve the charging for houses without drives which britain is full of especially in the north.
Looks like a plug in hybrid is my next choice when a granny charger will do with a new EV rated socket installed.
One day I will put it to her and instalation if paid for by the government but very few people point this out when pushing EVs.
PS. Looked at the price of the new Cupra Born at £47k and found that 8 month old ones are going for £32k. Insane depreciation.
 
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