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I've ordered a Sapphire Blue, but I'm going to confess that I've seen some of the Silver ones on here and have been tempted... The silver seems to look good in all light conditions, shows off the curves and matches the wheels better, the blue isn't always as photogenic and the wheels look hidden sometimes, but in some pics/lighting it looks absolutely stunning.

It would have helped if I'd ever seen either in real life, since it's in Derby it might be too late. 😅
For what it’s worth, I posted pictures on this forum a few days ago of 3 cars at my dealers. One was my grey (which looked good to me both in the flesh and in the photo) the others were dark blue and red. What struck me is that I felt they looked far better in the flesh than in my photos. Conversely, I reckon that silver looks ace in the photos I have seen (but I haven’t seen one for real yet). So, I guess, I am saying that some colours are more photogenic than others but that some that don’t look that good in photos actually look fantastic up close 😄
 
For what it’s worth, I posted pictures on this forum a few days ago of 3 cars at my dealers. One was my grey (which looked good to me both in the flesh and in the photo) the others were dark blue and red. What struck me is that I felt they looked far better in the flesh than in my photos. Conversely, I reckon that silver looks ace in the photos I have seen (but I haven’t seen one for real yet). So, I guess, I am saying that some colours are more photogenic than others but that some that don’t look that good in photos actually look fantastic up close 😄
Thanks, I'd seen your pictures, and what you say is very true, especially with darker colours and pearlescents, so dark pearlescents will be tough to gauge!

Seeing it in real life would have helped, I hope you can see the trim contrasts and curves, oh those curves...
 
I've ordered a Sapphire Blue,

Ah, my favourite colour. I was looking to swap my white for a blue with another user here (but I ended up swapping to silver). If I'd got blue I would have had to change the wheel colour. The other black parts don't contrast as well as I'd like, and blue is harder to keep looking good than silver, but when it's fairly clean I think it looks great.

but I'm going to confess that I've seen some of the Silver ones on here and have been tempted... The silver seems to look good in all light conditions, shows off the curves and matches the wheels better, the blue isn't always as photogenic and the wheels look hidden sometimes, but in some pics/lighting it looks absolutely stunning.

Yeah that sounds about right. Change the wheel colour and keep it cleanish.
 
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Ah, my favourite colour. I was looking to swap my white for a blue with another user here (but I ended up swapping to silver). If I'd got blue I would have had to change the wheel colour. The other black parts don't contrast as well as of like, and blue is harder to keep looking good than silver, but when it's fairly clean I think it looks great.



Yeah that sounds about right. Change the wheel colour and keep it cleanish.
Sounds like we have the same thoughts, I'm thinking a lighter bronze wheel could look good on it. It might need some paint protection... The problem is that the costs are suddenly mounting up for one paint choice... 😅
 
I like that they can't update the app to be accurate.
The cars are built at the Subaru factory in Gunma, Tokyo.
I'm aware of where it's built, just updating the forum in case anyone is like me checking the status 10 times a day!
 
Sounds like we have the same thoughts, I'm thinking a lighter bronze wheel could look good on it. It might need some paint protection... The problem is that the costs are suddenly mounting up for one paint choice... 😅
Yeah exactly. If bronze, then light for contrast. I think ceramic coating would be nice (can DIY if you have access to a garage), PPF not necessary.
 
Yeah exactly. If bronze, then light for contrast. I think ceramic coating would be nice (can DIY if you have access to a garage), PPF not necessary.
Looking at the paint problems people are having, especially chips, I'm tempted by a front half PPF (maybe include the roof, then ceramic the rest), the cost for the whole car makes me sweat as suddenly with all the potential mods the car is nudging nearer to £40k. It's very easy to spend money... 👀

ed: no garage yet sadly, and drive is difficult to work.
 
Looking at the paint problems people are having, especially chips, I'm tempted by a front half PPF (maybe include the roof, then ceramic the rest)
How much do you think that would cost? If PPFing, consider ceramic on top of it. PPF without ceramic would mean one half of your car stays cleaner then the PPF side.
 
How much do you think that would cost? If PPFing, consider ceramic on top of it. PPF without ceramic would mean one half of your car stays cleaner then the PPF side.
For a full front quarter PPF (including Wing Mirrors), new car detail and 5yr Ceramic Coating you are looking at around £1,900. Professional Detailers will not apply a Ceramic Coating on top of PPF otherwise it affects it's self-healing properties. You also can't apply PPF on top of a Ceramic Coat otherwise it won't stick - I had the same combination on my KonaN and both 'halves' were as easy to clean as the other; the Ceramic provides a bonded coat and the PPF is super smooth anyway. As with any coating, certain products should be avoided and PPF specific products (eg., Gyeon PPF Wash/Renew/Maintain) used where appropriate. That said, you can still safely use Ceramic Shampoo/foam and sprays across the whole of the car when cleaning.
 
You don't apply the Ceramic Coating on top of PPF otherwise it affects it's self-healing properties.

I've seen a demo of it on yt where they scratch up the ppf, then apply heat and it heals. The ceramic did not affect it.

I had the same combination on my KonaN and both 'halves' were as easy to clean as the other; the Ceramic provides a bonded coat and the PPF is super smooth anyway.

Fair enough, although I don't know why the ppf is so much smoother than paint.
 
.. I don't know why the ppf is so much smoother than paint.
PPF generally doesn't have microscopic surface imperfections like paint does. The Ceramic Coating levels out these imperfections in paintwork so contaminants can't stick (like pre-wetting a ship in preparation for a chemical attack) whereas the PPF is 'smooth' anyway. You certainly can't tell the difference by touch or when washing as the hand just glides across both surfaces without any 'texture' or grab - unless it's dirty and dry when I wouldn't be touching it by hand anyway. 😬
 
I've seen a demo of it on yt where they scratch up the ppf, then apply heat and it heals. The ceramic did not affect it.
Yeah, I’ve applied Ceramic Sprays to my PPF and it still self healed after a stone impact. The Certified Xpel installer informed me of this fact prior to the initial install, so maybe it has something to do with the settling process? I had to avoid washing my PPF for a week after installing. Then I could give it a soft wash with approved products. The annual warranty detailing involved a full (light) ceramic reapplication across the whole of the car, so I reckon it must become more hard-wearing as time passes?
 
Prices are variable around the country, I'm paying £1500 for front end PPF and 5 year Gyeon ceramic coating.
I have to use the motorway to get to work, so after a couple of months the front bumper and bonnet would have some chips, even staying back from trucks, so for me it's worth the investment, as a front end respray is probably as much these days.
 
Prices are variable around the country, I'm paying £1500 for front end PPF and 5 year Gyeon ceramic coating.
I have to use the motorway to get to work, so after a couple of months the front bumper and bonnet would have some chips, even staying back from trucks, so for me it's worth the investment, as a front end respray is probably as much these days.

I am oldskool and just wax my cars but interested in this PPF stuff.

Why is it so expensive though? I could get a professional respray of the front end for that price.

This looks pretty good value to me.


£395 for a DIY front end kit. Where do you add £1200 for at most 3 hours work? Maybe I am in the wrong profession!
 
I am oldskool and just wax my cars but interested in this PPF stuff.

Why is it so expensive though? I could get a professional respray of the front end for that price.

This looks pretty good value to me.


£395 for a DIY front end kit. Where do you add £1200 for at most 3 hours work? Maybe I am in the wrong profession!
It’s all in the preparation and application process. The film is so static that it draws dust specks in from every direction. You know what it’s like when a phone screen protector gets a bit of dust under it, multiply that ten-fold for PPF. To apply properly takes training, a clean indoor environment and certification in a lot of cases - otherwise you may get poor trim and dirt collecting edges. It took 3 days to do my last car…
 
I am oldskool and just wax my cars but interested in this PPF stuff.

Why is it so expensive though? I could get a professional respray of the front end for that price.

This looks pretty good value to me.


£395 for a DIY front end kit. Where do you add £1200 for at most 3 hours work? Maybe I am in the wrong profession!
Just to break that price down, it's £1200 for the front end PPF actually what they call track pack, so mirrors and A pillars also, and £300 for the Gyeon 5 year coating.

There are lots of different PPF films, the one my detailer uses is XPEL with a 10 year guarantee, so probably more than their £495 track pack.

So yes it's about £700 for the prep and 3 days work. They often remove trim and panels to wrap around the corners, so that takes time also.

So approx £230 a day, so yes I need to change job also!

I'd rather keep the original paint if I can for as long as possible. Paint jobs range in price, you can get a cheap job, but if you want something good without dust, sanding marks and fish eyes, it's costly.

Each to his own though.
 
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Just to break that price down, it's £1200 for the front end PPF actually what they call track pack, so mirrors and A pillars also, and £300 for the Gyeon 5 year coating.

There are lots of different PPF films, the one my detailer uses is XPEL with a 10 year guarantee, so probably more than their £495 track pack.

So yes it's about £700 for the prep and 3 days work. They often remove trim and panels to wrap around the corners, so that takes time also.

So approx £230 a day, so yes I need to change job also!

I'd rather keep the original paint if I can for as long as possible. Paint jobs range in price, you can get a cheap job, but if you want something good without dust, sanding marks and fish eyes, it's costly.

Each to his own though.
I understand the ceramic coating to make the car easier to wash. With PPF if you have something more than a scratch, say someone drives into you or deep scratches through the PPF, it's going to cost more to rectify with the PPF on it.

And after the repair is anyone going to PPF it again.
 
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