GR86 Vehicle Security

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I've asked my dealer if it's possible to fit the Toyota alarm onto my gr86 and they said it's not possible at all. Can anyone else ask their dealer the same, just for information?
 
G Kan said:
I've asked my dealer if it's possible to fit the Toyota alarm onto my gr86 and they said it's not possible at all. Can anyone else ask their dealer the same, just for information?
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You might have better luck with a Subaru dealer. 😉
 
Interesting that Toyota state the lack of an alarm doesn’t impact insurance, yet at the end of October Toyota Insurance Services withdrew the 3 day drive away cover as an offering 🤔
 
craig_16 said:
Interesting that Toyota state the lack of an alarm doesn’t impact insurance, yet at the end of October Toyota Insurance Services withdrew the 3 day drive away cover as an offering 🤔
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Has anyone asked their own insurer whether it will affect their excess or overall price?
 
My view is the immobiliser is by far the most important security feature - alarm systems, be they for auto or property, have little or no value.

Property [Home] CCTV systems are a worthwhile deterrent but research suggests these systems only displace crime, they don’t stop it.

BTW Your typical villain wears a hoodie and police resources are too thinly stretched to follow-up footage of unidentifiable actors [Unless a serious crime has been committed].

Sadly your typical villain also carries a blade so if you have to, call the police. Don’t make the mistake of placing yourself in danger.

As to alarms;

Most thefts from vehicles are opportunist - don’t leave possessions in a car, especially anything shiny/valuable. An alarm wont deter a smash-n-grab or a theft from an unlocked vehicle.

Most vehicle thefts are facilitated by securing keys first and if they have the keys the alarm argument is mute anyway.

Key security is paramount, they should never be left in-sight - even in your own home. Crooks will happily hook your keys through a letter box if given the opportunity.


The security feature that bothers me is the keyless-go system - a feature I’d delete if it were an option - I deactivate keyless-go with a double lock press on the remote every time I leave the car.

Not saying those that are bothered shouldn’t follow-up with Toyota but from a quick look, their “disclaimers” would probably give the most inexperienced lawyer enough to run-rings around any civil action.

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I have lodged my complaint with Toyota finance as they are equally liable to resolving the complaint and they are going to contact Toyota GB and will keep me informed. Anyone who took the their finance I recommend you do the same, only took a few minutes on the phone 03301079477. The more calls they have to deal with on this matter the more weight it gives to the issue.
 
Since it pertains to security I've noticed the keyless has some odd behaviours. I asked Toyota to open all doors on keyless from drivers door. This I think is right as mates have been in car since and I've not had to open door for them. But 2 nights running leaving work I've opened passenger door, put bag in, gone to driver door and it's locked. I open it, go shopping, come back to dump shopping in passenger side to find that door still open. It's very odd and quite concerning and I'll be raising it again on first service, along with some other things.
 
KobayashiMaru86 said:
Since it pertains to security I've noticed the keyless has some odd behaviours. I asked Toyota to open all doors on keyless from drivers door. This I think is right as mates have been in car since and I've not had to open door for them. But 2 nights running leaving work I've opened passenger door, put bag in, gone to driver door and it's locked. I open it, go shopping, come back to dump shopping in passenger side to find that door still open. It's very odd and quite concerning and I'll be raising it again on first service, along with some other things.
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Keyless entry, a solution desperately searching for a problem. I’d be much happier just pressing a button on the fob personally.
 
v8s said:
I have lodged my complaint with Toyota finance as they are equally liable to resolving the complaint and they are going to contact Toyota GB and will keep me informed. Anyone who took the their finance I recommend you do the same, only took a few minutes on the phone 03301079477. The more calls they have to deal with on this matter the more weight it gives to the issue.
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Well done for raising this. I can confirm that I have raised a complaint and that they will contact Toyota GB about the situation :)

I have yet to raise it with TS though.
 
Hachi-roku said:
I’d be much happier just pressing a button on the fob personally.
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Just like we have always done for the last 30 years without issue. Just useless stuff that no one asked for that they can charge a premium for.
As a side note have we confirmed if there is an immobiliser, we only have Toyota's word for it which at present counts for jack.

When I spoke to TFS the girl was only a taking notes to pass on and was a bit clueless about s75 let alone 75A so if you speak to them you will need to educate them a bit. TBF though I wasn't on hold for long and the whole call took 5 minutes.
 
I have just received an email from The Motor Ombudsman "We've now completed our review and we've confirmed that this is something we're able to investigate further.

Your case is waiting to be allocated to one of our case administrators. When your case is picked up, we'll get in touch to introduce you to your case administrator and let you know the next steps."

I've replied noting that multiple owners are in the same boat so they may want to group all the cases together for action. Would be good if others who want rectification raise their own cases at https://www.themotorombudsman.org

No indication of lead time, but their website suggests it won't be quick. Hopefully Trading Standards will pick it up soon as they may be able to do some arm twisting.
 
If they express an interest to hear from other similarly disgruntled owners and have a reference number we can all chip our complaint in against to tie it all up neatly at their end I’d be extremely interested to do so.
 
Hachi-roku said:
If they express an interest to hear from other similarly disgruntled owners and have a reference number we can all chip our complaint in against to tie it all up neatly at their end I’d be extremely interested to do so.
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If you haven't done so already please enter a complaint on The Motor Ombudsman website. Only takes a couple of mins.
 
What would be the best resolution to the problem?

If the TUK stance is based on unable to do (different cable harness or too invasive), no retro fit viable?

I’d hope they’d offer up a 3rd party system that’s the absolute nuts, and market that as a positive to a problem.

(Then I fell out of bed and woke up🤣)
 
Chris Mc said:
What would be the best resolution to the problem?

If the TUK stance is based on unable to do (different cable harness or too invasive), no retro fit viable?

I’d hope they’d offer up a 3rd party system that’s the absolute nuts, and market that as a positive to a problem.

(Then I fell out of bed and woke up🤣)
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Someone mentioned that a Toyota dealer said it wasn't possible to retro fit and someone else said ask Subaru, so I will try and call a Subaru dealer over the weekend to see if they have a different opinion. (My conspiracy theory head was telling me that the Toyota dealers have been told to give out the answer of no retrofit by HQ)
 
v8s said:
Someone mentioned that a Toyota dealer said it wasn't possible to retro fit and someone else said ask Subaru, so I will try and call a Subaru dealer over the weekend to see if they have a different opinion. (My conspiracy theory head was telling me that the Toyota dealers have been told to give out the answer of no retrofit by HQ)
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If Toyota said that the sky was blue, I'd go and check.
 
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