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ZN8 said:
Me too, even Honda are struggling in the UK.
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Spoke to my cousin when he came home from Japan and said Subaru aren't as popular as they once were, even there. They've not embraced EV like you think they would but he did get a Tesla as that's the only real EV option.

Honda is going the same way because they're still stuck in their ways. For years their APR's were like 6.9% or more, rarely a deal on, even when back then, cars were made here. I'm a massive fan of the FK8 Type-R but the new one I can't get on with. The wing looks like an afterthought and where the FK8 looked unique and Japanese, the FL5 looks generic. Even non hot stuff I can't think of one model I'd recommend to someone.
 
I’d be very surprised if the BRZ comes to Europe. If the BRZ wasn’t homologated by July 2022, it’s not going to be allowed under GSR2.
 
This was posted on one of the Facebook groups earlier. It made me very sad, know that somewhere in the world there are people who have enjoyed there Subaru BRZ's for over a year now and we still have no idea when(if?) we might get our cars:

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My local dealer has actually called me today ! Demo car due to them between 16th and 21st Nov ! And my car to be December. Cleary I am not getting too excited and have lavished this information with a huge dose of salt...... But at least nice to hear from them, and a good sign of movement.
 
Just got 4 tickets for all of us to see Peter Kay , just like the GR86 was hoping for Q1 2023 but it’s going to be 1 June 2024 , but I’m happy 👍 I started at 8435 in the queue and got my tickets at 10.53 , beat that Toyota U.K. 😂😂😂

No 1 son logged on and was 266,303 in the queue 😂😂😂


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AndyRC said:
Just got 4 tickets for all of us to see Peter Kay , just like the GR86 was hoping for Q1 2023 but it’s going to be 1 June 2024 , but I’m happy 👍 I started at 8435 in the queue and got my tickets at 10.53 , beat that Toyota U.K. 😂😂😂

No 1 son logged on and was 266,303 in the queue 😂😂😂


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Well done, we weren't that far behind you and sold out by the time we reached the front of the queue:(
 
grzoostuff said:
Well done, we weren't that far behind you and sold out by the time we reached the front of the queue:(
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Thanks 👍 The CEO had organised 4 of us to try and get tickets , all online early to join the queue , I want for September 2023 and was in the shortest queue at just over 8000 , I managed 3 and the CEO managed to get another one at same event. Fair play to TicketMaster their system appeared to stand up well , didn’t crash on any of us 😊
 
I have been thinking about a comment which the Director of the Institute for Fiscal Studies, Paul Johnson, made on this morning's edition of Sunday with Laura Kuenssberg - he suggested that the Chancellor of the Exchequer might increase Value Added Tax in the Autumn Statement on Thursday and that prompted this thought: if that happens, what are the chances of Toyota (GB) PLC (TGB) doing the morally decent thing and bearing the cost of any such increase so that all of us with confirmed orders for the GR86 are not of pocket because of the company's delay in delivering the cars?

I should, in view of the above, point out that the relevant provisions in TGB's New Car Buy Online Terms and Conditions of Sale for Toyota Vehicles would appear to be as follows:

"9.1 We make no guarantee or commitment as to any vehicle build or handover/collection dates. Such dates will be provided to you at the earliest opportunity after you place your order and are estimates only, subject to our amendment at any time. If our supply of the vehicle is delayed by an event outside our control then we will contact you as soon as possible to let you know and we will take steps to minimise the effect of the delay. Provided we do this we will not be liable for delays caused by the event."

"15.1 If the rate of VAT changes between your order date and the date we supply the vehicle, we will adjust the rate of VAT that you pay, unless you have already paid for the vehicle in full before the change in the rate of VAT takes effect."

I accept that whether or not TGB has either fully or sufficiently complied with Clause 9.1 above would ultimately be a matter for judicial interpretation on the particular facts. However, based on the evidence recorded on this forum, an at least arguable case could probably be made for the assertion that TGB has not provided us with "any vehicle build or handover/collection dates [...] at the earliest opportunity after you place your order..." Clause 9.1 implies that TGB will engage in regular communication about build and/or handover/collection dates with the company's online customers so surely where there is, as in this instance, a longer delay than TGB originally anticipated, there is a greater need for more frequent communication on the part of the company...

Finally, on a practical level, if the Chancellor of the Exchequer postpones any increase in VAT until, say, the 1st December 2022, will TGB's Buy Online Team have a system in place to enable any of us who wish to pay for our GR86s before that date to do so?
 
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