All models PPF Paint Protection Film

[SmudgeGR]

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Should be on the list, did put comment in order list a little earlier today covering 6MT Electric Blue and ticked the vote screen.

 

[GR86GRY]

Watched the video as well, totally agree. Mainly it is to put some protection on but have done by Toyota so comes as manufacture standard for insurance purposes. For another car I have the insurance would no allow ceramic as raises costs to do any 'fixing', funny my local dealer for the GR86 is offering Gen-3 Clearcoat for GBP 499, however not details on polish first etc and the overall detailing. There is another USA video where the guy strips off the little rum of PPF across the bonnet saying it is essentially useless and gets dirt across the line, which would do my head in.

Yeah it's dirt across the lines that don't finish at the edge of a panel that really put me off.

I'm going for Pearl White which can be hard to match if it needs a touch up so I'll be covering as much of the front of the car as possible.

Valid point on insurance, hadn't considered that.

 

[beorg]

I presume with ceramic coating you would not need to declare it as a modification with your insurance as it's not a permanent wrap like PPF and does not alter anything on the car, being equivalent to a hard-wearing sealant or wax (otherwise any car detail would need to be declared to your insurer).

Does anyone have any estimated cost for full front PPF and one for ceramic coating? I presume most will be going for both as PPF can be quite difficult to keep clean without any additional layer of water repellant on top.

 

[AndyRC]

Should be on the list, did put comment in order list a little earlier today covering 6MT Electric Blue and ticked the vote screen.

My apologies I’d missed you off the list , now corrected

 

[AndyRC]

@Sticky plans to do some PPF kits once he has access to a demo car

GR86 - PPF - Car needed for templates

Following the fantastic response to our Yaris DIY PPF kits I'm looking to offer the same quality and value for other models, and with this in mind I need to get my hands on a GR86 in order to make the templates. I'd need your car for around 4-5 hours, or ideally a full day at our Barnsley...

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[Dal3D]

I presume with ceramic coating you would not need to declare it as a modification with your insurance as it's not a permanent wrap like PPF and does not alter anything on the car, being equivalent to a hard-wearing sealant or wax (otherwise any car detail would need to be declared to your insurer).

Does anyone have any estimated cost for full front PPF and one for ceramic coating? I presume most will be going for both as PPF can be quite difficult to keep clean without any additional layer of water repellant on top.

Any wax or sealant is fine over the top just as you would on bare paint.

I regularly just put Gtechniq C2v3* over mine and it shines and beads like a good'un.

*which is admittedly an "easy apply" ceramic coating but I've tried waxes and sealants and they all work fine.

 

[SmudgeGR]

I presume with ceramic coating you would not need to declare it as a modification with your insurance as it's not a permanent wrap like PPF and does not alter anything on the car, being equivalent to a hard-wearing sealant or wax (otherwise any car detail would need to be declared to your insurer).

Does anyone have any estimated cost for full front PPF and one for ceramic coating? I presume most will be going for both as PPF can be quite difficult to keep clean without any additional layer of water repellant on top.

I presume with ceramic coating you would not need to declare it as a modification with your insurance as it's not a permanent wrap like PPF and does not alter anything on the car, being equivalent to a hard-wearing sealant or wax (otherwise any car detail would need to be declared to your insurer).

Does anyone have any estimated cost for full front PPF and one for ceramic coating? I presume most will be going for both as PPF can be quite difficult to keep clean without any additional layer of water repellant on top.

Aviva was the insurer who said no to ceramic on my GR Yaris CP, they did not come back about PPF. Each insurer will be different I guess but I decided better to ask than just do.

 

[GR86GRY]

Sounds like Direct Line object to PPF as well. Guess I'll be looking for a new insurer when the car arrives then!

 

[Dal3D]

Do these insurers object to the insurance cover to replace the PPF / ceramic coatings in an accident or just flatly refuse to cover the car at all?

The ceramic coating at least could be described as a posh sealant. If you had a replacement panel after an accident then you should expect to get it recoated, but not from the insurers expense?

 

[SmudgeGR]

Sounds like Direct Line object to PPF as well. Guess I'll be looking for a new insurer when the car arrives then!

Need to get Toyota GB to have the USA OEM PPF kit for install so Toyota GB can have it as a dealer fitted option pre-delivery thus car not modified as a manufacturer supplied standard car. Lets hope.

 

[SmudgeGR]

Do these insurers object to the insurance cover to replace the PPF / ceramic coatings in an accident or just flatly refuse to cover the car at all?

The ceramic coating at least could be described as a posh sealant. If you had a replacement panel after an accident then you should expect to get it recoated, but not from the insurers expense?

Aviva flatly refused to cover the car.

 

[Dav1d]

This is wild- is there any reason why? When I swapped to winter tyres and told my insurer (RAC btw) they refused to cover me. Despite me explaining that they were safer than the stock tyres and therefore make me less likely to crash, their computer just said no as the tyres weren’t what the car came with. I get that cosmetic modifications are a category by why would PPF/ coatings come into it? Surely you’d not try to claim that additional cost back off the insurer anyway. For what it’s worth I swapped to Admiral and they’re pretty good with modifications.

 

[SmudgeGR]

This is wild- is there any reason why? When I swapped to winter tyres and told my insurer (RAC btw) they refused to cover me. Despite me explaining that they were safer than the stock tyres and therefore make me less likely to crash, their computer just said no as the tyres weren’t what the car came with. I get that cosmetic modifications are a category by why would PPF/ coatings come into it? Surely you’d not try to claim that additional cost back off the insurer anyway. For what it’s worth I swapped to Admiral and they’re pretty good with modifications.

No explanation. Mad on the tyres, a bit like M or N rated on Merc's and Porsche, all depends on insurer. Will checkout Admiral, thanks for tip.

 

[beorg]

This is wild- is there any reason why? When I swapped to winter tyres and told my insurer (RAC btw) they refused to cover me. Despite me explaining that they were safer than the stock tyres and therefore make me less likely to crash, their computer just said no as the tyres weren’t what the car came with. I get that cosmetic modifications are a category by why would PPF/ coatings come into it? Surely you’d not try to claim that additional cost back off the insurer anyway. For what it’s worth I swapped to Admiral and they’re pretty good with modifications.

PPF increases perceived value of the car and can easily be noticed by closely looking at the car. This might make it more likely to be stolen in the eyes of the insurer.

You'd never know someone has put ceramic coating on a car unless they told you so, as there are other detailing products that have similar properties, just not lasting as long.

With tyres the situation is different, the insurer is not able to assess the risk of you crashing or the car failing as a result of non-manufacturer approved tyres. It would be treated as a modification similar to non-standard wheels.

 

[PVGR]

This is odd as surely if I crash my car covered in PPF it's cheaper to repair as the damage will be less?
Maybe they just don't want to replace the PPF?

 

[PVGR]

Reply from Admiral webchat:

You can certainly add this modification ......... This will be considered as exterior decorative changes

 

[GR86GRY]

I've just gone round the houses with DirectLine chat and no one will give me a direct answer either way.

Me: "Are Direct Line able to add Paint Protection Film as a modification to a car insurance policy?"

DL : "We can check that quote for you, however we cannot make any changes before 90 days of the amendment, So I would request you to contact us next month, we will take the quote for you and will help you in providing the charge for the following."

...but they can't "check that quote" for me, or even just answer the question in general terms. Nothing I've found on the internet suggests they'll cover it so I'll be shopping about come August/Sept.

 

[PVGR]

This video makes some interesting points:

 

[GR86GRY]

yeah valid points, I guess you need to ensure the edges are fully wrapped to avoid a lot of that but there is no getting away from the fact that it is a chunk of money on a £30k car.

I've just had the below back from Deluxe Car Care...

£1500+vat, which consists of:
-Front bumper
-Bonnet
-Front wings
-Wing mirrors
-Headlights
-A-pillars
-Leading edge of roof
-Side sills
-Rear bumper impact section (sits just behind the rear wheel)

I made the point about not wanting pieces ending mid-panel and collecting dirt and leaving the A Pillars / Leading Edge of Roof off for that reason does bring the price down a bit. It also includes a single stage paint correction on the car before anything is applied.

 

[AndyRC]

I suppose it depends on how easy the paint on you car is to touch up. I’ve previously had solid whites as they are quite easy to touch up. I also know two guys who had Matt paint on AMGs and both had stones which went through the PPF , it will stop a lot but a big enough rock will go through most stuff at the right speed.