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Paint Protection Film - PPF

  • 1. I will definitely have some fitted

    Votes: 29 25.9%

  • 2. I’m not convinced it’s worth it

    Votes: 47 42.0%

  • 3. Undecided so watching this thread

    Votes: 36 32.1%
  • Total voters
    112
I've had PPF on several cars, all of which are now a couple of years old. None of them have had the film start to lift and get dirt underneath like that Urus.
My car has got a few chips which has torn the film, but these happened on trackdays. The film on the other cars is still spot less, and they are used daily.

Most modern paint being waterbased is incredibly soft, so it marks and scratches extremely easily. For this reason PPF can be a worth while investment.

@doogle83 that quote of £1500+VAT is very reasonable.
 
I think for me it's alot of money, I don't want dirty edges, lines and creases you can see up close.

I also thought the fact that a stone chip on PPF fills with dirt and doesn't look good was a good point, as then do you replace the PPF or live with the chip?
 
If I wasn't going with a notoriously difficult to paint match pearlescent white car then it'd be a different decision. Biggest negative for me is them wanting my brand new car for 3 days to do it all :ROFLMAO:
 
Oh that'll be torture as you're supposed to do it right away!
 
doogle83 said:
yeah valid points, I guess you need to ensure the edges are fully wrapped to avoid a lot of that but there is no getting away from the fact that it is a chunk of money on a £30k car.

I've just had the below back from Deluxe Car Care...

£1500+vat, which consists of:
-Front bumper
-Bonnet
-Front wings
-Wing mirrors
-Headlights
-A-pillars
-Leading edge of roof
-Side sills
-Rear bumper impact section (sits just behind the rear wheel)

I made the point about not wanting pieces ending mid-panel and collecting dirt and leaving the A Pillars / Leading Edge of Roof off for that reason does bring the price down a bit. It also includes a single stage paint correction on the car before anything is applied.
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That's not a bad price to be honest - what PPF was that? Xpel? Suntek?
 
How long does PPF last? Do you have to replace it after a certain amount of years to avoid damage to paint?

I've seen figures of 5 years, but not sure if that's for it to look it's best or if that means it's recommended to replace to avoid paint damage.
 
Damage to the paint when you remove it seems to all come down to the quality of the underlying paint job.

FWIW Xpel warranty says:

For 10 years against:
"yellowing, cracking, blistering, and delaminating.
...
For 4 years: oxidation, loss of gloss, UV damage, fading"

"it is highly unlikely for paint protection film to harm oem paint. paint systems used on modern assembly lines today produce a minimum bond strength of 16 mpa and maximum of 25 mpa between the panel and the paint depending on color, iridescence and the system used. our film’s bond to the painted surface at normal state (immediately following installation) is .0753 mpa. even after years of heat and sun, the bond between the film and the paint increases to only 0.17 mpa. what that means is in the absolute worst case scenario, the bond of factory paint to the panel is over 94 times stronger than the bond of our film to the paint. in the best case, the paint is 332 times stronger.

that being said, it is still recommended to have a professional remove the film in accordance with our published guidelines.s."
 
doogle83 said:
Damage to the paint when you remove it seems to all come down to the quality of the underlying paint job.

FWIW Xpel warranty says:

For 10 years against:
"yellowing, cracking, blistering, and delaminating.
...
For 4 years: oxidation, loss of gloss, UV damage, fading"

"it is highly unlikely for paint protection film to harm oem paint. paint systems used on modern assembly lines today produce a minimum bond strength of 16 mpa and maximum of 25 mpa between the panel and the paint depending on color, iridescence and the system used. our film’s bond to the painted surface at normal state (immediately following installation) is .0753 mpa. even after years of heat and sun, the bond between the film and the paint increases to only 0.17 mpa. what that means is in the absolute worst case scenario, the bond of factory paint to the panel is over 94 times stronger than the bond of our film to the paint. in the best case, the paint is 332 times stronger.

that being said, it is still recommended to have a professional remove the film in accordance with our published guidelines.s."
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Very informative. Thanks for taking the time to write that!
 
Yeah me too. Pretty sure I'm going to do the entire front of the car, side sills and leave the rest so it can all be nicely tucked around the edges.
Add some mudguards for a bit more protection and then just drive the thing without worrying about it!
 
I’m fortunate because for all my new cars I’ve always managed to persuade the factory to apply a hard-wearing, multi-layer coating that not only protects the underlying bodywork from corrosion for decades, but is also reasonably resilient to picking up marks and chips from normal use. It’s also really good looking and readily and cheaply repairable at tens of thousands of locations worldwide should it pick up any damage or marks.

It’s always worked well for me 😁
 
I just know that just one paint chip annoys me - I'd hate to have to look at dozens every day before I pay to have the respray. Then the next day you might get another.

At least with PPF it helps my OCD that the front is mark free months on end and that doesn't change regardless of how much I look and worry about it.

Each to their own (y)
 
But isn't that the weird thing about PPF?

You get chips in it that look like a normal chips and fill with dirt.

Sure the paint is fine underneath but you have something that looks exactly like a chip, then what do you do?
Live with it - may as well not PPF and live with normal chips
Replace the PPF, expensive.
 
PVGR said:
But isn't that the weird thing about PPF?

You get chips in it that look like a normal chips and fill with dirt.

Sure the paint is fine underneath but you have something that looks exactly like a chip, then what do you do?
Live with it - may as well not PPF and live with normal chips
Replace the PPF, expensive.
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I've had PPF on my other car for 6 years and it still looks like new. No chips in it - perfectly flat and glossy.

If you drive 3 metres behind the car in front at 70 mph then there probably isn't much that'll help protect the paint from a nice sharp stone though but I don't drive like that. Motorways are not that bad as at least everyone is going in the same direction! It's the 60mph single lanes that have a 120mph impact speed that does all the major damage.
 
For me it’s the same logic as seat covers. Inconveniencing yourself and compromising your own ownership experience/wallet for some potential perceived benefit at some point down the line, maybe only at resale time.

I will defend to my dying breath the right for people to apply PPF should they want it though 😂
 
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Duke said:
For me it’s the same logic as seat covers. Inconveniencing yourself and compromising your own ownership experience/wallet for some potential perceived benefit at some point down the line, maybe only at resale time.

I will defend to myself dying breath the right for people to apply PPF should they want it though 😂
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You see my ownership experience is enhanced by PPF as the stone chips don't annoy me anymore. The GR86 was much cheaper than expected so I don't really care about the cost lol
 
PVGR said:
But isn't that the weird thing about PPF?

You get chips in it that look like a normal chips and fill with dirt.

Sure the paint is fine underneath but you have something that looks exactly like a chip, then what do you do?
Live with it - may as well not PPF and live with normal chips
Replace the PPF, expensive.
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I'm planning on keeping the Gr86 for 5-10 years if I gel with it well enough, and the thought of paying upwards of £2k (on top of ceramic coating!) every 3-5 years on maintaining the PPF and knowing that it may still get damaged by stone chips makes me very reluctant to consider PPF.
 
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