GR86 Oil consumption

Isn’t the tip to run slightly over max on these engines to reduce the oil surge/starvation issues?
Yeah 0.5 to 0.7 litre over fill has been proven to help mitigate those issues. Only really a concern on track though, mine is overfilled by about half a litre.
 
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Yeah 0.5 to 0.7 litre over fill has been proven to help mitigate those issues. Only really a concern on track though, mine is overfilled by about half a litre.
Where does that read on the dipstick?
 
My understanding was it should always be between min and max in reading conditions. It should only ever show over max if read while hot.

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It will be higher cold as more oil drains back into the sump over time. Overfill can be just as bad as having too low oil, but a small amount isn't going to do any harm.
 
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I checked my oil level at weekend and it's way over the top mark. Engine oil temp was around 90 deg. It's about 15mm above the top mark. I checked it cold earlier and was about the same. I am taking it back to the dealer on Friday as it was only serviced a month ago. I am not convinced they believe me as I was passed to 3 different people....
Hi they will show high sometimes if they have been standing for a while. Run the car up to temps then turn it off and sit 5-10 minutes then check it
 
Again, this is another myth that’s not been proven.
Ive always been told not to over fill an engine with oil because it can over pressurise the system and put pressure on the crankshaft.
I’m happy to slightly go over the line but adding quarter of a litre extra I won’t.

Once again, by doing this you will be going outside of the manufacturers spec and putting your warranty in doubt.

Just do your own research before taking random advice. Just my opinion again.
It's also important that your oil level doesn't get anywhere near the crank. Oil whipped up into a foam doesn't have the same film strength as it should. I don't know how much you would have to overfill to reach that point but I doubt the people giving that advice know either.
 
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It's also important that your oil level doesn't get anywhere near the crank. Oil whipped up into a foam doesn't have the same film strength as it should. I don't know how much you would have to overfill to reach that point but I doubt the people giving that advice know either.
Exactly, that’s why I don’t make stuff up and tell others. I work in the world of process and things are tried and tested and written up so everyone knows what to do / follow.
I trust Toyota as they are the originators of the manufacturing process. If you can’t trust them then you can’t trust anyone.
 
Ok so I have now covered 1250 miles and the car has consumed about 400ml of oil since I’ve been using all of the revs.
Used nothing up to 1000 miles during run in. Seems like now I’m using the revs it is swallowing it. More so that I would have thought.

Does this sound like I have one of these faulty PCV? I’ll contact the dealer if so and they can diagnose.

I remember reading thread about this PCV problem but can’t find it. Could anyone point me in the right direction please?

Thanks

Matt
 
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I don't think so, it's pretty normal for some oil consumption on a new engine. I would just monitor for now.
Ok nice one. Cheers. I’ll keep an eye on it for now.
Don’t mind putting oil in, it’s just concerning using that much in such a small space of time.
 
Mine used a little for the first 5k, but that did involve a fast drive to Scotland and back but nothing since. Now on 13k
I’m thinking that now the car is seeing revs and more side movement the internal areas are being covered in oil which is removing some from the sump and depositing it around the hidden parts of the engine.
It wasn’t using anything during run in so clearly wasn’t an issue for 1k miles.
I’ll just keep an eye on it.
 
I had this issue with a significant blow by during cold starts, dealership changed pcv valve after some verification and me showing that other did the same, issue disappeared.
I keep checking as do not want to give a chance for error.

Also, a friend that has a track brz was having a significant blow by, changed the pcv today and will be testing this Thursday.
 
I had this issue with a significant blow by during cold starts, dealership changed pcv valve after some verification and me showing that other did the same, issue disappeared.
I keep checking as do not want to give a chance for error.

Also, a friend that has a track brz was having a significant blow by, changed the pcv today and will be testing this Thursday.
A failed PCV doesn't increase oil consumption by increasing blow by.

The PCV valve should shut at idle as the vacuum in the intake system is too great and would such all the oil from the crankcase. It opens when the vacuum decreases/engine revs increase. When it fails it tends to stick open at idle. It's not really anything to do with blow by.
 
I had this issue with a significant blow by during cold starts, dealership changed pcv valve after some verification and me showing that other did the same, issue disappeared.
I keep checking as do not want to give a chance for error.

Also, a friend that has a track brz was having a significant blow by, changed the pcv today and will be testing this Thursday.
How did you prove it? I think a have higher oil consumption but not totally sure.
 
A failed PCV doesn't increase oil consumption by increasing blow by.

The PCV valve should shut at idle as the vacuum in the intake system is too great and would such all the oil from the crankcase. It opens when the vacuum decreases/engine revs increase. When it fails it tends to stick open at idle. It's not really anything to do with blow by.

what would be the right term? Some symptoms for a failed pcv are the following;

  • Rough acceleration
    When you press the accelerator, the engine should rev up and the car should speed up smoothly, but a failing PCV valve can cause rough acceleration.
  • Blue exhaust gas
    Blue smoke from the exhaust pipe indicates that the engine is burning oil, which could be a sign of a PCV valve problem.
  • Whistling or hissing sounds
    A slight blockage in the PCV valve can cause a whistling or hissing sound from the engine.
  • Oil leaks
    A clogged PCV valve can prevent blowback pressure from the cylinders from dissipating, which can over-pressurize the crankcase and lead to oil leaks. You might notice oil spots in your garage or sludge draining from the oil pan when you change your oil.
  • Excessive oil consumption
    If the PCV valve is stuck open, it can draw excess vapors from the crankcase and cause the engine to burn more oil than normal.
  • Poor fuel economy
    A failing PCV valve can cause a decrease in fuel economy
 
How did you prove it? I think a have higher oil consumption but not totally sure.
When working with the dealership, started measuring on flat surface, same temperature, also verifying the smoke on the startup. This was about 3 months before changing. Then changed the valve and measured again.

This is one of the cases that is documented to have impact on oil consumption, there are several others that will need to be checked.
 
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