GR86 GR86 - What wheels and tyres are you thinking about?

I've done a few hundred miles with the new tyres now, including a somewhat spirited drive this morning, so time for a quick appraisal. In short: they are great.

I have said in the past that I have not been all that happy with the stock Michelin PS4. They were not bad, but quite often there were situations where they didn't really inspire confidence. I cant quite put my finger on it, but I had a feeling like the car was up on it's toes all the time, as if the pressure were too high, or I was running Primacy tyres like the old GT. Lowering pressure to 32PSI helped a lot, as did an alignment, but I'd still get that niggling feeling sometimes while out for a drive, the car would feel a little light and not all that planted, sometimes even enough to make me abort a drive because I didn't trust the conditions.

That feeling seems to have gone now. I've just been out for a drive at 5.30AM, it was dry, clear and cold, about 5-6 degrees; no frost, but a bit of dew. Exactly the sort of autumnal conditions where I'd be second guessing the old tyres. With the new ones, I've had no such problem. The car feels much more sure footed to me. I intentionally took a route where I knew there'd be some quite tight turns which might usually make me very cautious, but the car felt more stable and planted through them. And that made the whole drive that much more enjoyable for me; I know some people like a car to move around a bit, but I'm much happier with that secure feeling of grip. As for moving from 215 to 225? If there has been any loss of precision or feel, I'm either not skilled enough, or not driving hard enough, to perceive it. And even if I could, the better grip makes up for it.

The ride is better. Bit less tyre roar, and I'm sure they soak up the little bumps and imperfections in the road better. Not night and day, but feels like it thumps less over road joints, tarmac patches, etc. And that is with the pressures at the stock 35PSI, and the new tyres have a higher load rating (92 XL, as opposed to 87 I think for the PS4, which I ran at 32PSI). Perhaps the higher load rating is why I can't really feel any loss of precision.

Other little plus points - I think the wheel looks better with less stretch and a more square sidewall, and should hopefully make the rims a bit less vulnerable to kerbs, especially as the Goodyear seems to have more chunky rim protection. My speedometer was always pretty accurate, overreading by 1-2MPH at most when compared with GPS....but the slight increase in diameter now means it is absolutely spot on perfect. Which is good for those of us with a little OCD.

Not sure if the improvements are down to switching from Michelin to Goodyear, as opposed to increased tyre size. As I said, the PS4 is in the same segment as the F1AS6 (albeit a generation older), so I didn't really expect a big performance gain. But moving to 225s gave me more options and cost less, so I'll be sticking with that for now.

Tyre tech has come on so much in the last few years.

I took my car out on Sunday, and gave it a bootful before giving the tyres chance to warm up, the big slide reminded me that when the temperatures are a little lower you need to give the rubber chance before trying to stress them too much. That's on a PS4S.

I've got another set of wheels for that car and I'm going to try out AD09, but it's obviously a track-biased tyre.
 
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The goodyear eagle asymmetric 6 seem to getting a lot of mentions on the forum at the moment.

I've recently fitted some and would echo Conscript's sentiment.

I should start by saying that I wasn't neccesserily dissatisfied with the PS4s, but I was getting new wheels so needed new tyres.
I always refer to Tyrereviews .com when i want to find out about any tyres I haven't personally used. they do a lot of thorough group testing. The Goodyear scored very highly against it's rivals in the "subjective" category, which is how it feels to the driver. With the addition of 30mm of contact patch per tyre and the associated grip increase, I figured that feedback and confidence was more important than getting the tyre that scored the highest on the measurable tests - although it still performed well in these.

I'm on a 245/40/17 which has about the same rolling radius as the stock 18s, bit with a bigger sidewall. There will obviously be differences going to a different wheel and tyre size so this isnt an apples to apples comparrison.
I'm really pleased with the goodyears. They're really predictable and confidence inspiring. Subjective braking Performance (how the braking feels to me) has improved - probably more down to the increased contact patch.
I've added an inch and a half of wheel width (38mm) and 30mm more tyre, but it sit's more square and there is significantly better rim protection.

The tyre roar is night and day difference. so much quieter than the michelin. Considering there's more rubber on the road thats quite an achievement.

As a UHP tyre im really happy with them. Don't forget that there is another tier of tyre above these known as ULTRA ULTRA HIGH PERFORMANCE!!! This includes the MP4S conti sport contact 7 and the goodyear eagle F1 supersport. If you want a tyre for occasional trackdays, one of these might be better, but there will be a trade-off with noise and cost.

Happy shopping!
 
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Enjoying reading the feedback here.

I feel I might be after slightly different characteristics and also feel that the ps4's(I also had on the gt86) are actually quite soft, have delayed steering response and are also on the quieter side. More of a touring tyre.

I quite like the feeling of the car up it's toes and darty, so perhaps the AS6 might not suit me, however it did score well on tyrereviews and subjectively could communicate well at the limit which I'd be keen to hear new owners thoughts on (if that situation arose... 👀)

I'm on my 4th set of tyres on the gr86, most recently sport contact 7 (mental grip in the wet), and favourites so far are the v107 for their communicative nature / feedback with slightly less grip (I.e exploitable at lower speed).

It'd be between the AS6 and the supersports next for me I reckon.
 
Enjoying reading the feedback here.

I feel I might be after slightly different characteristics and also feel that the ps4's(I also had on the gt86) are actually quite soft, have delayed steering response and are also on the quieter side. More of a touring tyre.

I quite like the feeling of the car up it's toes and darty, so perhaps the AS6 might not suit me, however it did score well on tyrereviews and subjectively could communicate well at the limit which I'd be keen to hear new owners thoughts on (if that situation arose... 👀)

I'm on my 4th set of tyres on the gr86, most recently sport contact 7 (mental grip in the wet), and favourites so far are the v107 for their communicative nature / feedback with slightly less grip (I.e exploitable at lower speed).

It'd be between the AS6 and the supersports next for me I reckon.
Can ask what are the V107s. Interesting observation I also quite like the pS4 feeling of being on tip toe. How many many miles have you done to get through 4 set of tyres?. They are very sketchy at less than 7 degrees and a bit of damp though. I have Goodyear four seasons in 225 on std rims for winter and they are night a day better in that respect. Also a little quieter and softer riding.
I would like to try some contact sport 7s as they get awesome reviews although it all depends on the car and there not many lighting rear drive sports cars to compare
 
The yokohama v107 is the successor to the v105, which I found to be the perfect all rounder on my gt86. I don't find the ps4 to be up on its toes btw, I felt they were a bit sluggish actually. The v107 I had in 225 on an 8j and it felt great. The wet braking ain't amazing though.
So I've burned through tyres due to trackdays 😁. Had some premium contact 6's (so that's the 4) on some older wheels so not brand new - also great tyre for feedback but didn't stand up to track.

Testing the sport contact 7 on track next month. Bit too grippy for the road for me (I know, what a daft thing to say) but they feel agile too.
I said to a mate recently, the Sport contact 7 is a 'fit and forget' tyre, seems capable anywhere . Much the same as others have reported here about the AS6 I'm sure 👍
 
The yokohama v107 is the successor to the v105, which I found to be the perfect all rounder on my gt86. I don't find the ps4 to be up on its toes btw, I felt they were a bit sluggish actually. The v107 I had in 225 on an 8j and it felt great. The wet braking ain't amazing though.
So I've burned through tyres due to trackdays 😁. Had some premium contact 6's (so that's the 4) on some older wheels so not brand new - also great tyre for feedback but didn't stand up to track.

Testing the sport contact 7 on track next month. Bit too grippy for the road for me (I know, what a daft thing to say) but they feel agile too.
I said to a mate recently, the Sport contact 7 is a 'fit and forget' tyre, seems capable anywhere . Much the same as others have reported here about the AS6 I'm sure 👍
Thanks Beans ah Yokohama no used any for decades. Track work explains it. I wo t be doing any track stuff really . Also agree not looking for loads of extra grip kind of defeats the whole idea of the car for me. Had very good experience using Goodyear eagle F1 on BMW but that a few generations back and a different kind of car. I am on std rims for both sets of tyres and still have a virtually unused set of PS4 to wear through prior to a change takes a while with the winter tyres as well. Now on around 27k.
 
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The yokohama v107 is the successor to the v105, which I found to be the perfect all rounder on my gt86. I don't find the ps4 to be up on its toes btw, I felt they were a bit sluggish actually. The v107 I had in 225 on an 8j and it felt great. The wet braking ain't amazing though.
So I've burned through tyres due to trackdays 😁. Had some premium contact 6's (so that's the 4) on some older wheels so not brand new - also great tyre for feedback but didn't stand up to track.

Testing the sport contact 7 on track next month. Bit too grippy for the road for me (I know, what a daft thing to say) but they feel agile too.
I said to a mate recently, the Sport contact 7 is a 'fit and forget' tyre, seems capable anywhere . Much the same as others have reported here about the AS6 I'm sure 👍
The Asymetric 6 will probably overheat quite quickly on track. it might be time for a second set of wheels for your track days *insert obligatory picture of a GR86 with 4 wheels in the boot here*

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The sport contact 7 seems to have a very wide sidewall, I just had some fitted and they’re noticeably more chunky than say an AD09, in terms of how far beyond the rim of the wheel they go.

Good for kerb protection, not so good when I’ve gone for an aggressive wheel setup 🫣
 
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I did another Sunday morning drive yesterday, again dry, not quite as cold, and am still very impressed with the Goodyears. It included a motorway run pretty much all the way along the M2 on the way home, so a good 30 minutes just cruising and without any traffic, and I certain they are quieter than than the OEM Michelins. No scientific analysis like decibel readings to back that up, just aware as I was cruising along that the background tyre noise seemed less intrusive and more bearable.
 
After getting initial customer orders out I grabbed some pictures of the 17” 5x100 wheels in stock.

Gloss white, gloss silver, gloss gunmetal, matte gunmetal.

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For the month of November I am going to be offering 10% off all wheels in stock to the wider public.

For Zoo members I’ll extend this such that I’ll sell the 5x100 in 17x8 +38 for £1,850 a set. That’s me making a loss on each one.
 
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Decided to use the OEM wheels for winter and managed to get a set of CrossClimate 2s from Costco for for £330 all in! That’s the same as a single 20” run flat for my previous BMW 😲

Not a sporty tyre but unfortunately UHP all seasons aren’t really a thing in Europe. Considered the new Pirelli but this price was too good to ignore.

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Decided to use the OEM wheels for winter and managed to get a set of CrossClimate 2s from Costco for for £330 all in! That’s the same as a single 20” run flat for my previous BMW 😲

Not a sporty tyre but unfortunately UHP all seasons aren’t really a thing in Europe. Considered the new Pirelli but this price was too good to ignore.

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Nice find - 225 and included fitting?
 
Decided to use the OEM wheels for winter and managed to get a set of CrossClimate 2s from Costco for for £330 all in!
That's a good price. I used CC2s on a previous 'N' vehicle - they were fantastic in the Winter and good enough to leave on for the rest of the year. Sold the car with them still fitted.
 
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I got CC2 fitted yesterday OEM 215 size. Cost me £440 + fitting. Also got tracking done. CC2 are noticeably quieter and softer than PS4. I only driven them in dry conditions around 12deg C. Very happy with the choice.
 
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Decided to use the OEM wheels for winter and managed to get a set of CrossClimate 2s from Costco for for £330 all in! That’s the same as a single 20” run flat for my previous BMW 😲

Not a sporty tyre but unfortunately UHP all seasons aren’t really a thing in Europe. Considered the new Pirelli but this price was too good to ignore.

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That's an excellent price for a brilliant tyre. I just checked mine before heading to Wales yesterday. 16000 miles and very minimal wear. I kept them on all year due to our poor summer.
 
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