GR Yaris (Gen 2) GR Yaris Mk2 (MY2024->)

UK cars come with a boot mat now which helps to reduce noise and it feels a much quieter place to be than before
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I did wonder if they included the boot mat to help with road noise đŸ€”
Enjoy the Mk2 👍
 
I just commented on another thread but how are you getting on with the RSA and safety features? After just 20miles it’s killing me chiming away and flashing in my peripheral vision. I’ve not driven hard as running in but I have a lot of country roads round by me with no road markings but some limits change from 60 to 30 unnecessarily and quite quickly, some also go down to 20 very early. Also I feel a little bit of resistance on the steering even with lane assist off. Has anyone worked out how to turn the RSA off in the controls yet?
 
Dave9202 said:
I just commented on another thread but how are you getting on with the RSA and safety features? After just 20miles it’s killing me chiming away and flashing in my peripheral vision. I’ve not driven hard as running in but I have a lot of country roads round by me with no road markings but some limits change from 60 to 30 unnecessarily and quite quickly, some also go down to 20 very early. Also I feel a little bit of resistance on the steering even with lane assist off. Has anyone worked out how to turn the RSA off in the controls yet?
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I’ve replied to other thread but I think after 100 miles (mine is also away getting valeted at present) that the lane assist needs turning off on each start up. The steering wheel button doesn’t do anything to switch off it all happens in the menus I turned off steering resistance and have left the beep so I don’t need to turn it off each time.

There’s 3 dashboards you can have so I’ve setup:

Tyre pressures - gear - temperatures
Boost gauge - settings - something else
Range - map - mpg

So when I start the car I move across to screen 2. Press ok once (no long hold) and then you can select RSA and lane assist.
 
I changed my tires last week and took this opportunity to try the MK2 (auto).

Here are the points I think are better in the MK2:

- Seating position: for someone long like me (1m90) this is a massive difference, for real, the position is way better.
- Power: better power output and a lot more torque in the lower revs. Continuous power delivery.
- Handling, same-same, I did not have the time to test the different mode thoroughly

But here are the points this car is lacking:

- A manual gearbox: for real, this auto box is aweful (never liked any auto gearbox except on higher end car (200k+ ))
- A soul: it is more sophisticated in a way and it therefore lacks some raw feeling that I have in the MK1

It is a better car for sure but I will not be interested to change my MK1 for this, even in a manual gearbox for the reasons above.

Unfortunately, the MK1 can't have the same driving position by retrofitting the MK2 set up, checked that with my local dealer.
 
Ono said:
I changed my tires last week and took this opportunity to try the MK2 (auto).

Here are the points I think are better in the MK2:

- Seating position: for someone long like me (1m90) this is a massive difference, for real, the position is way better.
- Power: better power output and a lot more torque in the lower revs. Continuous power delivery.
- Handling, same-same, I did not have the time to test the different mode thoroughly

But here are the points this car is lacking:

- A manual gearbox: for real, this auto box is aweful (never liked any auto gearbox except on higher end car (200k+ ))
- A soul: it is more sophisticated in a way and it therefore lacks some raw feeling that I have in the MK1

It is a better car for sure but I will not be interested to change my MK1 for this, even in a manual gearbox for the reasons above.

Unfortunately, the MK1 can't have the same driving position by retrofitting the MK2 set up, checked that with my local dealer.
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with boes console the position has been fine. same you can get with sport seats. you might loose the ass warmer but life is not fair either.
 
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Ono said:
I changed my tires last week and took this opportunity to try the MK2 (auto).

Here are the points I think are better in the MK2:

- Seating position: for someone long like me (1m90) this is a massive difference, for real, the position is way better.
- Power: better power output and a lot more torque in the lower revs. Continuous power delivery.
- Handling, same-same, I did not have the time to test the different mode thoroughly

But here are the points this car is lacking:

- A manual gearbox: for real, this auto box is aweful (never liked any auto gearbox except on higher end car (200k+ ))
- A soul: it is more sophisticated in a way and it therefore lacks some raw feeling that I have in the MK1

It is a better car for sure but I will not be interested to change my MK1 for this, even in a manual gearbox for the reasons above.

Unfortunately, the MK1 can't have the same driving position by retrofitting the MK2 set up, checked that with my local dealer.
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I’ve not driven the auto but I agree with your plus side points, I was pleasantly surprised how much better the seating position was being 6ft, no more ducking to see all around. Also agree with the low end torque, while running mine in its definitely still noticeable. Also I really like the dash (personally) albeit it might date more quickly.
 
Dave9202 said:
I’ve not driven the auto but I agree with your plus side points, I was pleasantly surprised how much better the seating position was being 6ft, no more ducking to see all around. Also agree with the low end torque, while running mine in its definitely still noticeable. Also I really like the dash (personally) albeit it might date more quickly.
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I think the dull, generic mk1 dash will date much worse than the new one.

In an age where EVs finally seem to have allowed manufacturers to break out of their deeply conservative design habits, car interiors are now showing a bit of variety in form, texture and colours.

As almost the last of the ‘traditional’ era of dash and binnacle design, I think the original interior will look horribly dated in 10 years and the striking new one is just different enough to be viewed on its own merits.

Compare a the last of the Escorts to the original Focus to see what I mean. The Focus looked wild for its time, but it has aged very well. The Escort looked dull and normal at the time but now appears very much a mediocre product of a previous era, mainly because it was.
 
Duke said:
I think the dull, generic mk1 dash will date much worse than the new one.

In an age where EVs finally seem to have allowed manufacturers to break out of their deeply conservative design habits, car interiors are now showing a bit of variety in form, texture and colours.

As almost the last of the ‘traditional’ era of dash and binnacle design, I think the original interior will look horribly dated in 10 years and the striking new one is just different enough to be viewed on its own merits.

Compare a the last of the Escorts to the original Focus to see what I mean. The Focus looked wild for its time, but it has aged very well. The Escort looked dull and normal at the time but now appears very much a mediocre product of a previous era, mainly because it was.
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sometimes dull is quite good
 
Duke said:
I think the dull, generic mk1 dash will date much worse than the new one.

In an age where EVs finally seem to have allowed manufacturers to break out of their deeply conservative design habits, car interiors are now showing a bit of variety in form, texture and colours.

As almost the last of the ‘traditional’ era of dash and binnacle design, I think the original interior will look horribly dated in 10 years and the striking new one is just different enough to be viewed on its own merits.

Compare a the last of the Escorts to the original Focus to see what I mean. The Focus looked wild for its time, but it has aged very well. The Escort looked dull and normal at the time but now appears very much a mediocre product of a previous era, mainly because it was.
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I think you’re right, look at the old FN civic it was quite a design change for a dashboard and even after my old one hit 10 years old people would still get in saying how modern looking it was.

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I looked at an original GRMN Yaris yesterday and whilst I don’t think it’s aged as well as the Honda it’s still quite a clean look:

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Then you get to the GR Yaris and someone went shit we forgot the screen and let’s put a baseball cap over the dials.

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I dunno for me orange, or green, dashboard lights instantly dates a vehicle. These days resolution of screens instantly dates vehicles.

For me digital dashes are going to age as ungracefully as in car entertainment systems. I feel like in a decades time there will be retrofit upgrade screens for current day in car systems and it's a much more involved job to upgrade a dials

That said the Yaris has gone with a particularly retro design for the new dials maybe it'll stay fresh longer.
 
corroded said:
I dunno for me orange, or green, dashboard lights instantly dates a vehicle. These days resolution of screens instantly dates vehicles.

For me digital dashes are going to age as ungracefully as in car entertainment systems. I feel like in a decades time there will be retrofit upgrade screens for current day in car systems and it's a much more involved job to upgrade a dials

That said the Yaris has gone with a particularly retro design for the new dials maybe it'll stay fresh longer.
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This 100%.

There is no chance in hell that today’s digital dashboards will age gracefully—unless we’re talking about aging like expired milk. Seriously, even an iPhone barely makes it a few years before looking like a relic, and yet automakers seem hell-bent on cramming these god-awful digital monstrosities into every car they churn out. We’re living through the worst era in automotive history where designs are not just tacky but aggressively impractical. They’re ramming this disastrous tech down our throats like it’s the cure for bad taste. The bigger the iPad in your dash, the “better”—because apparently, nothing says premium like a giant glowing slab of outdated tech.

As @Michael Knight nailed it, simplicity is timeless. You can’t ruin what’s simple, and you certainly can’t overcomplicate something that works. Just look at the dash designs of the 90s and early 2000s. The E46 M3 is a perfect example—an analog dash with proper clocks that look just as perfect today as they did 25 years ago. It’s classy, functional, and has aged like fine wine. Meanwhile, the digital displays in today’s cars are bound to age like yesterday’s sushi, all while demanding software updates like your old phone.

Mark my words, in a decade or so, people will be begging for analog readouts while the digital screens will be seen for what they are: overpriced, rapidly aging junk.

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I agree that beautiful analog dials will age amazingly. and certainly better than digital. However I don't rate Mk1 dials as beautiful, quite contrary.
 
6mt said:
This 100%.

There is no chance in hell that today’s digital dashboards will age gracefully—unless we’re talking about aging like expired milk. Seriously, even an iPhone barely makes it a few years before looking like a relic, and yet automakers seem hell-bent on cramming these god-awful digital monstrosities into every car they churn out. We’re living through the worst era in automotive history where designs are not just tacky but aggressively impractical. They’re ramming this disastrous tech down our throats like it’s the cure for bad taste. The bigger the iPad in your dash, the “better”—because apparently, nothing says premium like a giant glowing slab of outdated tech.

As @Michael Knight nailed it, simplicity is timeless. You can’t ruin what’s simple, and you certainly can’t overcomplicate something that works. Just look at the dash designs of the 90s and early 2000s. The E46 M3 is a perfect example—an analog dash with proper clocks that look just as perfect today as they did 25 years ago. It’s classy, functional, and has aged like fine wine. Meanwhile, the digital displays in today’s cars are bound to age like yesterday’s sushi, all while demanding software updates like your old phone.

Mark my words, in a decade or so, people will be begging for analog readouts while the digital screens will be seen for what they are: overpriced, rapidly aging junk.
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For chintzy, overdone ones with silly animations and ‘novel’ interpretations of traditional round gauges (BMW, I’m looking at you), very possibly.

But the original Audi virtual cockpit is now 10 years old and still looks absolutely great. It doesn’t try to do anything too fancy though; no cheesy effects and overuse of redundant animations, and there’s nothing to suggest it won’t look just as good in another 10 or 20 years.

Would a set of analogue gauges do the job? Absolutely, but the clarity and flexibility of the digital cluster is a definite benefit in that application at least.

I’ve not seen much of the new GR Yaris’s cluster to know which side that might be in!
 
6mt said:
As @Michael Knight nailed it, simplicity is timeless. You can’t ruin what’s simple, and you certainly can’t overcomplicate something that works. Just look at the dash designs of the 90s and early 2000s. The E46 M3 is a perfect example—an analog dash with proper clocks that look just as perfect today as they did 25 years ago. It’s classy, functional, and has aged like fine wine. Meanwhile, the digital displays in today’s cars are bound to age like yesterday’s sushi, all while demanding software updates like your old phone.
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You forget that that car had about the functionality of a vacuum.
If you would need fysical buttons right now, some youtuber calculated it and you would need 100's of buttons. Remember when people complained about the amount of buttons in a Ford of Mercedes ;).
 
sandervdw said:
You forget that that car had about the functionality of a vacuum.
If you would need fysical buttons right now, some youtuber calculated it and you would need 100's of buttons. Remember when people complained about the amount of buttons in a Ford of Mercedes ;).
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this all comes to discussion what do you really need in a car. if you need over 100 features, then you will likely need to add a screen. if not, then screen is irrelevant.
McLaren had four pedals in their race car, typically three is enough.
 
Michael Knight said:
this all comes to discussion what do you really need in a car. if you need over 100 features, then you will likely need to add a screen. if not, then screen is irrelevant.
McLaren had four pedals in their race car, typically three is enough.
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Correct.
Small list of features that require a digital dashboard or a ridiculous amount of buttons/gauges :
TPMS
All kinds of temperature monitoring
Phone calls
changing audio settings
satnav/android auto/Apple Car Play
changing language on all those things
personal driving modes
Disabling all of the driving aids (or enabling)
 
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