GR Yaris (Gen 2) GR Yaris Mk2 (MY2024->)

[mag]

not actually liking the price climb this model has.
would have preffered that Toyota provided cheap consumables etc. to make most of fun of the car (such as Porsche has for their Cup cars, at least partially).
bumpers, brakes etc. should be cheap. now it feels car will end up being a garage queen due to high prices, which is sad in the end.

There's loads of garage queen mk1s purchased as second/third cars or as investments. Toyota themselves acknowledged that they were surprised by how wealthy many of the customers for the GRY were. When rich folk start buying your product you bump up the price.

It's sucks for the rest of us but is what it is. I grew up seeing supras, skylines and evos etc on streets around me around me and used to think I'll work hard and own one someday but no chance of that. Same will be true of the next iterations of the Yaris. Unfortunately there's always going to be folks with the same interest and taste but with deeper pockets driving up prices. Granted this price increase is from the manufacturer they're probably confident they can shift low volumes with a bigger margin

 

[gr-fun]

Waiting impatiently for the TBCs to become WTFs.

 

[Michael Knight]

EE didnt win so had to do homework?

 

[markku]

but seriously, if you add 5k hood and 5k spoiler it makes easily +10k pricetag, not to forget other stuff + exclusivity there is with these limited spec cars so not really surprised with 70-75k pricetag.

Absolutely, I agree with you at all when it comes to value measured by pure money, cosmetic parts and exclusivity.
I forgot to specify that I see the price raise much less worth it when it comes to what really matters to people who enjoy hardcore cars like the GRY.
I guess if you'd wake up in a Rovanpera Edition, and you'd start driving it without knowing it's a Special Edition car, you could hardly realise whether it's a different car from a manual ordinary Mk2, except for the banner about the two Rovanpera championships, and for the (much) lower balance on your bank account, at least until you sell it.
Instead, if you buy it like a stock on the financial markets, you are likely doing it right, but it's not my idea of enjoying a car like this.

 

[Michael Knight]

Absolutely, I agree with you at all when it comes to value measured by pure money, cosmetic parts and exclusivity.
I forgot to specify that I see the price raise much less worth it when it comes to what really matters to people who enjoy hardcore cars like the GRY.
I guess if you'd wake up in a Rovanpera Edition, and you'd start driving it without knowing it's a Special Edition car, you could hardly realise whether it's a different car from a manual ordinary Mk2, except for the banner about the two Rovanpera championships, and for the (much) lower balance on your bank account, at least until you sell it.
Instead, if you buy it like a stock on the financial markets, you are likely doing it right, but it's not my idea of enjoying a car like this.

That blind test would be sublime but agree 100%

 

[Orion]

We talked about mechanical improvements to the new model, but lets talk about usability.

Do you think infotainment will be upgraded?
Will we get wireless Android Auto/Apple Carplay?
Do you think Lane Assist feature will get improved on? On my new Civic (non TypeR) it's sublime and pleasure using when commuting.

And are they finally going to show tire temperatures (and not just pressures) on the dash, as even the Mk1 knows them?

(And please update this on Mk1 as well)

 

[Michael Knight]

And are they finally going to show tire temperatures (and not just pressures) on the dash, as even the Mk1 knows them?

(And please update this on Mk1 as well)

Thats interesting point - someone should hack the data into readable format

 

[Orion]

Thats interesting point - someone should hack the data into readable format

The pids are known for quite some time, I am using them in Torque Pro, but how neat would it be to have them on dash as many other cars have them...

 

[Michael Knight]

The pids are known for quite some time, I am using them in Torque Pro, but how neat would it be to have them on dash as many other cars have them...

Good reason to get an android phone.

 

[CerN]

The pids are known for quite some time, I am using them in Torque Pro, but how neat would it be to have them on dash as many other cars have them...

Hmmm... Wonder if I can get this to show on my Lufi XS

 

[Magnettico]

That should not be hard I think, normally the dash is much easier to hack than the engine ecu. I will talk to some friends to see if they know something...

 

[Greenthumb]

I have it with the Can Check .

 

[CerN]

Can anyone list the PIDS for this?

 

[GR-Admin]

Can anyone list the PIDS for this?

Please discuss on an existing thread, or start a new one.

GR Yaris - PIDs reverse engineered revisited

Together with the users dvim, MagnusT, aussiebogan, ...from "the other forum" we found some PIDs which work on the GRY. Tested with Torque Pro, other programs which accept PID settings should work too. Before this information is gone I took the liberty to duplicate our findings here, presented...

www.gr-zoo.com

 

[Onehp]

EE didnt win so had to do homework?

Good review, good footage and the reviewer can steer a fair bit too, humble as he is (saw another dutch reviewer on ice yesterday and they just filmed him while talking, not much else to see as he was going about ). EE has had plenty of practice so expect nothing else, life is hard

I can tell the new car rotates better and thus handles better, seems indeed the car is better calibrated. Stock for stock it seems pretty obvious the new one will be 'better'. I mean it should, they had 4 years to improve on it

That said I didn't have issues with a little added front camber (3 neg bit too much really) when driving on ice. Both are excellent tools still, one better tweaked out of the box, it's still all for and about the bloke/gal behind the wheel.

 

[Michael Knight]

Good review, good footage and the reviewer can steer a fair bit too, humble as he is (saw another dutch reviewer on ice yesterday and they just filmed him while talking, not much else to see as he was going about ). EE has had plenty of practice so expect nothing else, life is hard

I can tell the new car rotates better and thus handles better, seems indeed the car is better calibrated. Stock for stock it seems pretty obvious the new one will be 'better'. I mean it should, they had 4 years to improve on it

That said I didn't have issues with a little added front camber (3 neg bit too much really) when driving on ice. Both are excellent tools still, one better tweaked out of the box, it's still all for and about the bloke/gal behind the wheel.

for me the mk1 is quite nice on soft surface namely gravel and snow, don't need any more "rotation" as such. on asphalt its different story but then again nobody is perfect so not an issue. more happy with good overall package, and nothing that setup / suspension couldn't handle.

 

[markku]

Fresh test by EVO magazine (same location as the video above).
It's interesting to see (and actually to be expected) that the stiffer suspensions are making the Mk2 a bit less forgiving, at least on ice track.
https://www.evo.co.uk/toyota/gr-yaris/206554/toyota-gr-yaris-gen-2-2024-review-driving-it-on-ice

 

[GRFan]

Is there no 30 70 setting anymore?

 

[markku]

Is there no 30 70 setting anymore?

Taken from the Toyota Europe Newsroom website today:
"In normal mode the standard front/rear torque distribution is 60:40; in Track mode the balance shifts to the rear, with variable drive torque distribution between 60:40 and 30:70 to achieve a fun-to-drive quality on winding roads and circuits; and in Gravel mode the base setting is 53:47 for fast, competitive driving on circuits or special stages. In each mode, the torque balance will automatically adjust in response to the driver’s inputs, vehicle behaviour and road or track conditions".
So 30:70 is still available within Track Mode but it is set automatically depending on road conditions and driver's inputs.

 

[GRFan]

That is a pity.

I really liked the 30/70 setting. The car rotated more on first throttle input.

I thought we had a variable switch we could adjust it manually between 60/40 and 30/70