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GR Yaris (Gen 2) GR Yaris Mk2 (MY2024->)
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sessantanove
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So these from Toyota are only for the front and it could be that you can buy them anywhere from Toyota
sessantanove
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markku
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About the price increase, I made up my mind a while ago about it. I don't know if someone already touched this point here before.
Putting aside inflation for a second, I would blame most of the difference on the confidence by Toyota in the easiness of selling this car.
In 2020 (remember we were in full pandemic, suddenly slowing down car sales, among other more severe things), Toyota wasn't sure at all to easily sell all the 25k samples it was planning to build.
A 100% ICE car, in an hostile political environment, and with the hot-hatch sector in deep crisis... No one was betting a dime on it, at least before testing it.
I still remember many forums were almost everyone was sure that Toyota would be forced to stop production before getting to 25k, and that the depreciation of this car would have been dramatic, scaring anyone who considered buying it.
So Toyota decided for a very prudential price point, a price that would convince much more people to order it with less fear of wasting their money.
After that, the first tests, the first enthusiastic customers, an incredible hype wave mounting, order books filled up in hours... We all know this story very well.
I'm pretty sure Toyota would have decided for a much higher price if it had a crystal ball to predict the the success of the Mk1 car before launching it on market.
And to say it all, Toyota didn't stay sat on its hands. Here in Italy, the launch price was 39.9k euros, and the last Mk1s were sold in 2024 at a 46k euros price, with a 15% increase in 3 years.
What I mean is that if Toyota were to launch the Mk1 today instead of the Mk2, it would set a price way higher that the bargain price of 2020, something just a bit below 50k euros, I guess.
And then the Mk2 price would then be not too much higher than the Mk1's price.
My conclusion, being a crazy lover of this car, is that the Mk2 is still priced less than it could be, and about the Mk1, I think (exactly like @cuddles) it's the best bargain car I've seen in my lifetime so far.
This car made it affordable to many a car that gives emotions and satisfaction like cars priced 200k euros or even more, so it deserves to be praised like the only car that democratized the pure pleasure of driving. It will definitely stay as an unforgettable drivers' car icon.
That said, I still can't tell what it could be the right price of any GRY.
A 100% ICE hatch-back, that in 2024 burns all order books in matter of days, what price could reach? Is there really a plausible roof to this?
What is the price that could stop people to rush in line to buy the fewer and fewer that will be produced in the future?
That's why the discussions about price don't catch my attention very much.
The only sure thing in my opinion is that anyone who has a GRY, any version of it, should better keep it, and worship it as the one of the last icon in the world of sports car.
Who knows how and when we could put our hands on something like this car, or even on a GRY at all?
I'm fearing that Toyota, after closing order books in days for the Mk2, will think again about the price for the next batches.
And I don't blame them at all.
On the opposite, I feel only like thanking them forever (and Morizo particularly) for having built this car, against all odds.
They have the full right to sell it at any price that they reckon it's the right one.
So, in the end I'm quite afraid that my pockets will never be so deep to afford any Mk3, if there will be one...
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Magnettico
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Just did a test drive. Manual car
- it seems that there is no start stop, at least it was not activated during my drive.
- I actually didn't even noticed ISA warnings at all. No vibration, and could barely hear the alarm when driving, even with no music. Not sure if something was done to that specific car, but probably not.
Just to check I turned it off when I got back to the dealership, turned the engine off, and it was activated again after the engine start.
-seat position is much better
-rear view mirror seems to be in the same position as the mk1+the aftermarket rising bracket.
-the dash is much better in person, maybe I looked at it a lot and got used to it, not sure.
-cluster is good, no problems at all with being digital.
-suspension is a little bit stiffer, less body roll, but felt good, no problems with that. Not harsh. Hit a bump on the street with both cars, mk2 seemed to jump easier
-the rear feels more controlled on normal/sporty driving
-engine definitely felt better, more torque and power, really noticeable
-a lot of blow-off noises, all the time. Maybe from the speakers?
-did a 2-3 gear pull, and went hard on the brakes. It felt like the engine was still pushing even after I lift, pretty strange. Maybe the pads are still too new and the brakes didn't had that first good bite.
- it seems that there is no start stop, at least it was not activated during my drive.
- I actually didn't even noticed ISA warnings at all. No vibration, and could barely hear the alarm when driving, even with no music. Not sure if something was done to that specific car, but probably not.
Just to check I turned it off when I got back to the dealership, turned the engine off, and it was activated again after the engine start.
-seat position is much better
-rear view mirror seems to be in the same position as the mk1+the aftermarket rising bracket.
-the dash is much better in person, maybe I looked at it a lot and got used to it, not sure.
-cluster is good, no problems at all with being digital.
-suspension is a little bit stiffer, less body roll, but felt good, no problems with that. Not harsh. Hit a bump on the street with both cars, mk2 seemed to jump easier
-the rear feels more controlled on normal/sporty driving
-engine definitely felt better, more torque and power, really noticeable
-a lot of blow-off noises, all the time. Maybe from the speakers?
-did a 2-3 gear pull, and went hard on the brakes. It felt like the engine was still pushing even after I lift, pretty strange. Maybe the pads are still too new and the brakes didn't had that first good bite.
Magnettico
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Thanks for your short review! Much appreciated and more valuable then those journalist reviews.Just did a test drive. Manual car
- it seems that there is no start stop, at least it was not activated during my drive.
- I actually didn't even noticed ISA warnings at all. No vibration, and could barely hear the alarm when driving, even with no music. Not sure if something was done to that specific car, but probably not.
Just to check I turned it off when I got back to the dealership, turned the engine off, and it was activated again after the engine start.
-seat position is much better
-rear view mirror seems to be in the same position as the mk1+the aftermarket rising bracket.
-the dash is much better in person, maybe I looked at it a lot and got used to it, not sure.
-cluster is good, no problems at all with being digital.
-suspension is a little bit stiffer, less body roll, but felt good, no problems with that. Not harsh. Hit a bump on the street with both cars, mk2 seemed to jump easier
-the rear feels more controlled on normal/sporty driving
-engine definitely felt better, more torque and power, really noticeable
-a lot of blow-off noises, all the time. Maybe from the speakers?
-did a 2-3 gear pull, and went hard on the brakes. It felt like the engine was still pushing even after I lift, pretty strange. Maybe the pads are still too new and the brakes didn't had that first good bite.
Sounds a bit like rev hang?! That would be criminal on a car like this.
Sam
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Mk1 has rev hang.
Magnettico
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Yes, it felt like that. Maybe the throttle valve calibration is different (I don't know which driving mode as was using, but I think it was sport).
At first it felt they calibrated it to have less engine braking at higher RPMs, and because of that it was keeping the throttle open for longer than it should (when I braked)
Right after I got back to my car I tried to compare the engine brake at similar rpm (4-5k)and gear (3rd), but it felt kinda similar.
I will need to take my car to service in the next few weeks, so maybe I can go for another ride while I wait
New Manual is fantastic!!!
@Magnettico I really appreciate the review. Did you notice any improvements on the infotainment screen or exactly the same? Overall quality and pixel density?
Magnettico
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I actually didn't touched it haha. Just the blue screen with the first disclosure information for us to accept the terms. But it seemed better quality than mk1 (almost anything is better than that)
Anyone know why Toyota are throttling the production of this car? I’ve read that it’s co2 emissions related but surely that has nothing to do with it, when you have the likes of Mercedes/BMW producing V6 or V8 guzzlers. Why is the worlds largest car manufacturer struggling to keep emissions in check when most of its lineup is hybrid?
While I’m here, anyone looked at buying an MK2 from Japan and importing it over? Dont know how difficult it would be but there surely might be a company that can sort it all out. Looking at the Japanese configurator the mk2 comes in at around 28k (or 33k is with all options ticked including body kit). Do they limit numbers in Japan as well?
While I’m here, anyone looked at buying an MK2 from Japan and importing it over? Dont know how difficult it would be but there surely might be a company that can sort it all out. Looking at the Japanese configurator the mk2 comes in at around 28k (or 33k is with all options ticked including body kit). Do they limit numbers in Japan as well?
