GR Yaris (Gen 2) GR Yaris Mk2 (MY2024->)

I don't see any sense in getting demonstrators when you sell out the car in few days anyways. I know my country wont get any demonstrators, but that's quite normal here.
I agree, although I had read somewhere the GRY may become a permanent in the Toyota line up so although there’s very limited number for the first run there’s likely to be more available once the “hype” calms down a bit.
 

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Very good information 👍

I just miss the information on how to switch off the drive assistants like ISA?
Possibly via the drive mode button? 🤔
 
What about the button to turn off the automatic start and stop system of the engine? (The one with the capital "A" letter on)
I can't see it on the photos of the Mk2 interior.
 
We are not talking about 10K. Here in Germany i could buy at the moment plenty NEW MK1'S with 0km for 38-39K EUR. The new MK2 as manual with extras would cost me around 54K.
These are 15K difference.

And what Im asking myself atm is. If I spend 15K EUR on top to a new MK1, like:

-Seat lowering / mirror riser (1k)
-Fron/Rear Strut (0.5K)
-Eventuri Intake (1.5K)
-HJS Downpipe (1.5K)
-Kelford Valve Springs + Camshafts (2K)
-Suspension upgrades like Cusco Arms/Wiborg front arms (2K)
-EcuTek Software (1.5K)
-Installing overall (2k)

Still leaves a few K to invest for example in an Audio upgrade. And Overall you have a car destroying every Mk2 on any surface

and the ISA thing is like the cherry on the cake. Or what do u thinka bout this brainstorming?
 
We are not talking about 10K. Here in Germany i could buy at the moment plenty NEW MK1'S with 0km for 38-39K EUR. The new MK2 as manual with extras would cost me around 54K.
These are 15K difference.

And what Im asking myself atm is. If I spend 15K EUR on top to a new MK1, like:

-Seat lowering / mirror riser (1k)
-Fron/Rear Strut (0.5K)
-Eventuri Intake (1.5K)
-HJS Downpipe (1.5K)
-Kelford Valve Springs + Camshafts (2K)
-Suspension upgrades like Cusco Arms/Wiborg front arms (2K)
-EcuTek Software (1.5K)
-Installing overall (2k)

Still leaves a few K to invest for example in an Audio upgrade. And Overall you have a car destroying every Mk2 on any surface

and the ISA thing is like the cherry on the cake. Or what do u thinka bout this brainstorming?
Pretty intriguing brainstorming, indeed.
 
Please moan and discuss ISA on the ISA thread.

 
We are not talking about 10K. Here in Germany i could buy at the moment plenty NEW MK1'S with 0km for 38-39K EUR. The new MK2 as manual with extras would cost me around 54K.
These are 15K difference.

And what Im asking myself atm is. If I spend 15K EUR on top to a new MK1, like:

-Seat lowering / mirror riser (1k)
-Fron/Rear Strut (0.5K)
-Eventuri Intake (1.5K)
-HJS Downpipe (1.5K)
-Kelford Valve Springs + Camshafts (2K)
-Suspension upgrades like Cusco Arms/Wiborg front arms (2K)
-EcuTek Software (1.5K)
-Installing overall (2k)

Still leaves a few K to invest for example in an Audio upgrade. And Overall you have a car destroying every Mk2 on any surface

and the ISA thing is like the cherry on the cake. Or what do u thinka bout this brainstorming?

I mean yes, you can buy the older model. Spend 15k on it and lose warranty in the first month.
And yes, buying Mk2 over Mk1 is just a premium for people who have 15k more to spend on a car.
It's always the same.. you can buy older for 20% less money, or new model for 20% more to gain some street cred.
The thing is, old car is 4 years old (model, not actual production). Inflation in last 4 years has been around 25%. So it's still the same. Old model lost 25% of realistic VALUE even thou it's priced the same in EUR. That's because EUR lost 25% of VALUE. It's the perspective of high-inflation world that people have a problem with.
There has been a period in last 5 years where sports cars were affordable, the new reality is different sadly.
 
Funny how the price difference is in different countrys…

MK1 with 10‘000km ~ CHF 40‘000.-
MK1 with 0km ~CHF 44‘000.-
MK2 with 0km ~ CHF 44‘000.-

So in Switzerland it‘s gonna be really interesting to see where prices of used and/or new MK1‘s is going.
From what I see (autoscout24), used Mk1 prices are starting rising up, with a median price of 43'500 Euros (it was 43'000 just a week ago).
 
I mean yes, you can buy the older model. Spend 15k on it and lose warranty in the first month.
And yes, buying Mk2 over Mk1 is just a premium for people who have 15k more to spend on a car.
It's always the same.. you can buy older for 20% less money, or new model for 20% more to gain some street cred.
The thing is, old car is 4 years old (model, not actual production). Inflation in last 4 years has been around 25%. So it's still the same. Old model lost 25% of realistic VALUE even thou it's priced the same in EUR. That's because EUR lost 25% of VALUE. It's the perspective of high-inflation world that people have a problem with.
There has been a period in last 5 years where sports cars were affordable, the new reality is different sadly.
Agreed, new car is slightly more expensive, but not that much.
And you can do a lot of modification to the gen 1 to solve the issues they have, but you're still just patching the issues.
eg. The seat lowering/mirror rising gives you a few extra cm to watch through, not the full solution Toyota has built for the gen 2.
You will still get worse cooling than the gen 2
You still get a weaker engine than the gen 2

And the moment something breaks, you have no warranty whatsoever.
 
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Agreed, new car is slightly more expensive, but not that much.
And you can do a lot of modification to the gen 1 to solve the issues they have, but you're still just patching the issues.
eg. The seat lowering/mirror rising gives you a few extra cm to watch through, not the full solution Toyota has built for the gen 2.
You will still get worse cooling than the gen 2
You still get a weaker engine than the gen 2

And the moment something breaks, you have no warranty whatsoever.
the aftermarket performance parts is getting so good that breaking something becomes the 'perfect excuse' ;)
 
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Agreed, new car is slightly more expensive, but not that much.
And you can do a lot of modification to the gen 1 to solve the issues they have, but you're still just patching the issues.
eg. The seat lowering/mirror rising gives you a few extra cm to watch through, not the full solution Toyota has built for the gen 2.
You will still get worse cooling than the gen 2
You still get a weaker engine than the gen 2

And the moment something breaks, you have no warranty whatsoever.
I could bet my jewelries that the cooling pack my car has is better than mk2. yes sure its aftermarket but its still better. ;)
But overall this benefit vs cost is really a customer and market dependant. sure if you want full stock car, mk2 is better if you can manage the cost.
Against current mk1 in garage, not very sure. I would love to get that better engine as a overall package, just to avoid gremlins but with current setup I think mk1 will be just fine. Not reaching the moon.
 
eg. The seat lowering/mirror rising gives you a few extra cm to watch through, not the full solution Toyota has built for the gen 2.

The mirror rising in the Mk2 is probably indistinguishable from the result of using a mirror riser (though hopefully implemented differently). There's no point in raising the mirror any more than that (if you could) because you're already either looking at the rear headliner in the top half of the mirror or the whole mirror is looking at the ground just behind you. That's (likely) why the stock mirror was so low: it has to be low to give you a view back (rather than down) through that low rear window.

And the rear window didn't change.
 
the aftermarket performance parts is getting so good that breaking something becomes the 'perfect excuse' ;)
Doesn't need to be the aftermarket part that breaks ;). Even if a Toyota part breaks, they won't give you warranty if you're car is tuned...
The mirror rising in the Mk2 is probably indistinguishable from the result of using a mirror riser (though hopefully implemented differently). There's no point in raising the mirror any more than that (if you could) because you're already either looking at the rear headliner in the top half of the mirror or the whole mirror is looking at the ground just behind you. That's (likely) why the stock mirror was so low: it has to be low to give you a view back (rather than down) through that low rear window.

And the rear window didn't change.
The biggest difference is that they lowered the dash in comparison to the seating position. That's something neither a mirror riser or lowered seat can't do. Apart from that, if you live in a country where tuning isn't a big deal, sure. But if you live in (eg.) Belgium, you can forget about any significant tuning. You can tune the ECU, change the exhaust and some minor things on the engine, but anything to give you a big boost will fail MOT.
 
The biggest difference is that they lowered the dash in comparison to the seating position. That's something neither a mirror riser or lowered seat can't do. Apart from that, if you live in a country where tuning isn't a big deal, sure. But if you live in (eg.) Belgium, you can forget about any significant tuning. You can tune the ECU, change the exhaust and some minor things on the engine, but anything to give you a big boost will fail MOT.

Is anyone really bothered by dash? I took Mk1 owned by a friend for a spin and dash didn't block any view at all. If I would be seating 2.5cm lower it still wouldn't.
 
Doesn't need to be the aftermarket part that breaks ;). Even if a Toyota part breaks, they won't give you warranty if you're car is tuned...

The biggest difference is that they lowered the dash in comparison to the seating position. That's something neither a mirror riser or lowered seat can't do. Apart from that, if you live in a country where tuning isn't a big deal, sure. But if you live in (eg.) Belgium, you can forget about any significant tuning. You can tune the ECU, change the exhaust and some minor things on the engine, but anything to give you a big boost will fail MOT.
Depends alot with service rep. Not black and white.
 
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