Michael Knight
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Im 191cm so see easy over dash in mk1. Altough I do have lower seat console from Boes which works fine also with helmet.
GR Yaris (Gen 2) GR Yaris Mk2 (MY2024->)
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I'm 6ft tall with lowered seats. The top of the MK1 screen is actually lower than the scuttle panel/base of the window. So I can't think the new dash makes a huge difference to visibility unless you're much shorter or have an aftermarket seat slammed on the floor.Doesn't need to be the aftermarket part that breaks. Even if a Toyota part breaks, they won't give you warranty if you're car is tuned...
The biggest difference is that they lowered the dash in comparison to the seating position. That's something neither a mirror riser or lowered seat can't do. Apart from that, if you live in a country where tuning isn't a big deal, sure. But if you live in (eg.) Belgium, you can forget about any significant tuning. You can tune the ECU, change the exhaust and some minor things on the engine, but anything to give you a big boost will fail MOT.
The narrative that the MK1's dash and mirror are awkwardly positioned is IMO significantly exaggerated. This applies to most criticisms of the MK1. For instance, the portrayal of its engine as inherently weak is absurd.
As someone who stands at 185 cm, I've found the seating position and the stock mirror to perfectly suit my needs. Not once have I felt that my visibility was compromised. The seat height, while not as low and sporty as some sports cars, is exactly to my preference for a rally-inspired car. Sitting slightly higher is beneficial, allowing clear visibility of the car's front end without the need to lean forward - an ideal setup in my view. Additionally, concerns about the infotainment screen obstructing the view are unfounded in my experience.
It's important to remember that for every individual who criticizes the seating position and mirror, there are others who appreciate them as they are.
Personally, having the seat at any lower than its stock height would be less comfortable for me. For reference, the stock seat in my '21 M2C felt too low, making it slightly more difficult to accurately judge distances to surroundings due to limited visibility of the front end and sides. Adjusting the seat higher wasn't a viable solution either, owing to the car's roofline design, which was all a bit annoying.
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Yes @6mt, that's exactly the same thing I thought once I saw a video from AJSport channel (page 45 on this thread) where in a comparison between Mk1 and Mk2, many and many "well known" (?) flaws of Mk1 were enumerated, even something I never heard of, and in the end it looked like Mk2 was a mandatory and urgent evolution, given the Mk1 had too many problems to be fixed.
In my opinion the Mk1 is maybe the best sports car recently built (at least before the Mk2 was launched) and no one has to forget this, ever, even if we are overwhelmed now by reviews and tests celebrating how the Mk2 greatly performs.
The "so said" flaws of Mk1 are very petty in general, included the driving position (I am 187cm tall, and I've never been particularly annoyed by the driving position or by the front visibility) and sometimes they are underlined just to forcefully find some defects in an almost annoyingly perfect car (for the type of car it is, of course).
In my opinion the Mk1 is maybe the best sports car recently built (at least before the Mk2 was launched) and no one has to forget this, ever, even if we are overwhelmed now by reviews and tests celebrating how the Mk2 greatly performs.
The "so said" flaws of Mk1 are very petty in general, included the driving position (I am 187cm tall, and I've never been particularly annoyed by the driving position or by the front visibility) and sometimes they are underlined just to forcefully find some defects in an almost annoyingly perfect car (for the type of car it is, of course).
I'm actually more excited about longer steering rack than seat. I don't think the drivers seat was too bad, however as a tall person co-drivers seat was the main issue. Let's just call it a welcome update.
I don't own an Mk1, I was just super excited when then announced Auto box and tweaks for most of the things that bothered me, but weren't really dealbreakers. I'm not looking for something that I won't need to fiddle too much with. I hope Auto box is good enough, I hate Toyota that they did track and snow tests only. I hope they didn't left out road on purpose... I just kind of assume they did, because they didn't want everyone complaining about slow shifts.
I don't own an Mk1, I was just super excited when then announced Auto box and tweaks for most of the things that bothered me, but weren't really dealbreakers. I'm not looking for something that I won't need to fiddle too much with. I hope Auto box is good enough, I hate Toyota that they did track and snow tests only. I hope they didn't left out road on purpose... I just kind of assume they did, because they didn't want everyone complaining about slow shifts.
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I saw that and really questioned how accurate those comparisons were. From a quick search, Mr Google suggests that the Porsche PDK can shift in under 100 milliseconds...
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Just to raise the fight about auto vs manual (manual supporter here... I was a auto one just a few weeks ago to say it all 
), one of the things that made me order the manual Mk2 is the fact that I read somewhere (unfortunately I don't remember where) that the Special Editions had to be both manual ones because the autogear couldn't manage the extreme 4x4 settings commanded by the two champions (particularly the open diff in the Rovanpera Ed).
And in my opinion this stays the same for any particularly extreme situation where it's required some creative approach by the driver, who could ask for a lower gear (for instance) to do something he 's trying to do at best, and the autogear could refuse to shift down, even when ordered through manual paddles (not only in "D" gear, I mean).
With the manual, you can downshift whenever you want (if rpm stay below limiter, of course).
Well ladies and gentlemen, let the fight begin...
), one of the things that made me order the manual Mk2 is the fact that I read somewhere (unfortunately I don't remember where) that the Special Editions had to be both manual ones because the autogear couldn't manage the extreme 4x4 settings commanded by the two champions (particularly the open diff in the Rovanpera Ed).And in my opinion this stays the same for any particularly extreme situation where it's required some creative approach by the driver, who could ask for a lower gear (for instance) to do something he 's trying to do at best, and the autogear could refuse to shift down, even when ordered through manual paddles (not only in "D" gear, I mean).
With the manual, you can downshift whenever you want (if rpm stay below limiter, of course).
Well ladies and gentlemen, let the fight begin...
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Norbi
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Only one way to find out: I hereby challenge you for a race in Italy! Your manual vs my AT. Location tbd, in the Fall…Just to raise the fight about auto vs manual (manual supporter here... I was a auto one just a few weeks ago to say it all
And in my opinion this stays the same for any particularly extreme situation where it's required some creative approach by the driver, who could ask for a lower gear (for instance) to do something he 's trying to do at best, and the autogear could refuse to shift down, even when ordered through manual paddles (not only in "D" gear, I mean).
With the manual, you can downshift whenever you want (if rpm stay below limiter, of course).
Well ladies and gentlemen, let the fight begin...
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Michael Knight
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Not sure Im the only one but the vagueness in specs with mk2 has been somewhat irritating. Sounds some of the benefits achieved did came from marketing vs engineering. Or then just confused with awd explanations of the special models but some of the stories does not just add up. Likely its just Japanese humour.
That could be a disappointment as it appears it's only angled a little lower. Discuss here: https://www.gr-zoo.com/threads/retrofit-mk2-steering-column-vs-spacer.6292/post-97786
Italy in Texas USA, or Italy Italy?
Good luck finding a Yaris in USAItaly in Texas USA, or Italy Italy?
Oh, there are a few imported ones from Mexico... Not road legal.Good luck finding a Yaris in USA
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Let's all move to Estonia!
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In Australia, the Mk1 is currently priced at 61k, up from 59k due to a recent increase. The GR Corolla is 70k. I'm curious to know what you guys predict the price will be considering the information above. I thought it would be logical for the price to go up by roughly 5k-8k as I don't know how they could price it above the GR carolla?
I would tend to agree. Originally though didn’t Aus only get the equivalent to the convenience pack in the UK? Don’t think they’ve had the “circuit” version for long as the original reviews from Aus were very mediocre (as reviewing the convenience edition). Would’ve expected lower prices in Aus tbh as I don’t think there’s the demand, plus shipping costs must be lower due to locality compared to Europe, also still RHD so would come off the same production as JPN and UK.
they’ll have to have the “circuit” pack only now though so won’t be surprised if there’s a significant jump in price.
Michael Knight
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Cheers for EE Marketing adding that sport into model/equip package definition. After all - it is a sporty car
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