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A lot of fish fished in Europe is sent to China to be packed in plastic packaging, and then returned to Europe to be sold.
That's just one example.

The climate change movement has been corrupted by lobbyism that sees a huge potential for profits. It is evident when the only things that are being done are the ones that only affect the common man, but not any of those things actually big enough to make a measurable impact.
Respectfully disagree. Lots of stuff happening in industry. And obviously broken stuff like you mention should be fixed. It's all about incentives and regulations and, yes, the trillion dollar fish industry is quite fishy, I encourage anyone who can to speak up. But then, at least in Sweden, the (fish cleaning) work ethic of Norwegians is legendary ;)
 
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Oh yes, this Topic can be huge:).

I see it completely differently too. As long as this fact exists, I simply don't want to be annoyed as an individual for my car.

"The fifteen largest ships in the world alone emit as many pollutants per year as 750 million cars, the German Nature Conservation Association calculated in a study. The world fleet of around 90,000 ships burns around 370 million tonnes of fuel per year and blows 20 million tonnes of sulfur oxide into the air."

Source https://www.srf.ch/wissen/klimaerwaermung/co2-ausstoss-schifffahrt-das-schmutzigste-gewerbe-der-welt

The problem is, making every driver in the world feel guilty in order to take money out of their pockets is more lucrative.

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I'm not denying that it's not unhealthy, but...

My grandfather was in the German Air Force and then worked as an aviation technology tester for 40 years and inhaled fuel poison every day. He was 94 years old. My grandmother smoked 40 cigarettes a day and lived to be 96 years old. A good friend had never smoked and died of lung cancer at 42. Another at 38 with brain tumor without alcohol and without cigarettes. If both had smoked, they would say “that’s obvious”!
I'm not saying that smoking doesn't do any harm, it 100% does. I wanted to say something completely different.


Regardless, I won't say anything more about that. My opinion is that the governments only care about our money as always. Asking everyone to pay for the environment is simply too lucrative.

I also have no problem with someone seeing things differently. But I get angry if I'm constantly being teased about it.

I don't mean you @Onehp, I respect your opinion ;)

Edit: so many lost in translation, but i think you understand the core of the statement
 
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Respectfully disagree. Lots of stuff happening in industry. And obviously broken stuff like you mention should be fixed. It's all about incentives and regulations and, yes, the trillion dollar fish industry is quite fishy, I encourage anyone who can to speak up. But then, at least in Sweden, the (fish cleaning) work ethic of Norwegians is legendary ;)

I see it in my own country. The wind power lobby is so strong, and has ingrained themselves so well that we are giving massive subsidies to foreign companies that are building out wind power, when we could upgrade our existing hydro plants so easily, and for much less, and keep ourselves afloat until we have built out nuclear energy. But nuclear energy is being undermined completely by the government, even when every piece of data says it will be much better than wind.

They ignore all questions about upgrading the hydro plants, even when it's commonly known and been discussed for years as a very easy gain (all we need to do is to upgrade a bunch of 50+ year old turbines to modern turbines and it would increase our energy output by a huge amount).

Almost all of the primeval forest is gone in Norway, and wind power has a part to play in that. Even in protected reserves where you are not allowed to build or do anything, windmills gets the "A-OK!"

They are planning on building a few of them in the woods around my town. Maybe you will see a news article in the future about a bloke chained to his yellow GR blocking the roads so the diggers can't do their job. :ROFLMAO:

There is a huge on-going case in Norway where windmills were built on protected sami land in the north of Norway. Supreme court ruled them illegally built, and the government guilty for approving the construction. Yet it's been years and they continue to ignore even the supreme court ruling. Despite countless protests from the sami population.


Yes, I keep editing this post...
TLDR: preventing climate crisis has caused a nature crisis in this country. We have sacrificed beautiful mountains, ancients forests, and fjords to save on CO2 (And I don't think it's making a difference).
 
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I see it completely differently too. As long as this fact exists, I simply don't want to be annoyed as an individual for my car.
I have good news, the use of crude oil in ships has been banned globally, I am personally working on a project that involves methanol driven ships that are infinitely cleaner.

Also don't confuse things, this is about air pollutants that were emitted. If you are upset about this, removing a OPF/GPF also increases emission many times over, removing the cat this one car can emit the same as 100 catted cars.

But I was speaking about CO2 emissions, and in this respect shipping is immensly more efficient then a pkw/car. So I guess you're now upset about all cars? :p

it's easy to point a finger at others, but I am well aware that at that moment, hidden behind the back of my hand, tree other fingers are pointing at myself
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I have good news, the use of crude oil in ships has been banned globally, I am personally working on a project that involves methanol driven ships that are infinitely cleaner.

Also don't confuse things, this is about air pollutants that were emitted. If you are upset about this, removing a OPF/GPF also increases emission many times over, removing the cat it can emit the same as 100 cars.

But I was speaking about CO2 emissions, and in this respect shipping is immensly more efficient then a pkw/car. So I guess you're now upset about all cars? :p
No, you understand that wrong :). I'm on the dark side. As long as there are wars, ships, airplanes, burning stacks of car tires in Africa and 1000,000 other things, I don't care so much about my car's emissions that I can't even describe it :).
 

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No, you understand that wrong :). I'm on the dark side. As long as there are wars, ships, airplanes, burning stacks of car tires in Africa and 1000,000 other things, I don't care so much about my car's emissions that I can't even describe it :).

I got that, I'm not trying to 'convert' any one of you, just sharing my journey with this car :D I was just happy that it was so easy to buy a better environmental conscience when the realisation came to me the offsetting carbon emissions isn't all bad,and feel slightly less bad for not always driving my EV or taking the bicycle (which I should do more for other reasons)....
 

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Not to but for. I'm on here for the love of driving for which my preferred tool is the GRY, at the same time I'm conscientious of the fact we're beating temperature records globally for the last 8 months and that car transportation as a system isn't very sustainable still, with globally still increasing emissions....

And many here, including me (at least not wholly) cannot settle with some lower impact car, I've seen with my own imagination the disgust in the posts of quite some on here when talking about ele*choke*ctric cars...

Anyhow, I finallly did it and compensated for my GRY CO2 footprint, both for production (estimated at 6 tonnes) and use (4 so far). It cost me £30, far cheaper then buying an electric car....

Now carbon offsetting is controversial for good reason, the offset itself to be any good should happen quickly, last in time and be truly something additional to what would have happened otherwise. Planting trees isn't typically a good (but very popular) option. And a lot of scammers will take your money (or a portion of it).

I used the UN carbon offset platform, doesn't get more neutral then that, and chose a project that made sense to me. Not failproof, but neither is driving a Prius and I'm pretty sure it helps to make a real difference. Does it greenwash my driving GRY? probably. Does make me feel smart? Quite so. Does it improve my conscience? Yes it does a bit, and sharing this here does so even more if it means more people addicted to driving petrol cars do something similar 😬
I chose not to have children. That gives me enough carbon credits to drive a GRY.
 

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I chose not to have children. That gives me enough carbon credits to drive a GRY.

Populations are on their way down in many countries. Will become hard to pay pensions. There will be voices to weed out old folks, subtle and less so... Wars reduce people count too and are driven by climate change and resulting fight for resources too. Some say nature has feedback loops that will halt global warning, and I think they are right but not in the way they thought, if it comes to it nature will make us humans go away.... (edit)

Fun subject 😁. But I also remember, 99% of the news is about the 1% that's bad, and 1% is about the 99% that goes well. I remain optimistic...

On topic. Snow here, went for a little drive, drifting in the snow. That was fun. It's a hobby 😬
 
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Populations are on their way down in many countries. Will become hard to pay pensions. There will be voices to weed out old folks, subtle and less so... Wars reduce people count too and are driven by climate change and resulting fight for resources too. Some say nature has feedback loops that will halt global warning, and I think they are right but not in the way they thought, if it comes to it nature will make us humans go away.... People without kids tend to care less because they'll be dead anyway 🙃

Fun subject 😁. But I also remember, 99% of the news is about the 1% that's bad, and 1% is about the 99% that goes well. I remain optimistic...

On topic. Snow here, went for a little drive, drifting in the snow. That was fun. It's a hobby 😬
Maybe those without kids care more? Those with kids could make selfish decisions that favour their offsoring's immediate needs at the expense of the bigger picture.

Those that don't eat meat probably care more about animal welfare than the general population...
 

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Had the centre exit exhaust added and a photoshoot done by @JS_Media_
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Maybe those without kids care more? Those with kids could make selfish decisions that favour their offsoring's immediate needs at the expense of the bigger picture.

Those that don't eat meat probably care more about animal welfare than the general population...
Good point. I was misdirected, edited. Those that consciously choose not to can be highly aware, very true. More about short vs long term perspective, some with kiddos think they have right to everything too. Was probably thinking about old dogs that don't want to change their ways and find all kinds of excuses and not really think about new generations, especially when childless but not necessarily, that will inherit their dogshait.
 

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Good point. I was misdirected, edited. Those that consciously choose not to can be highly aware, very true. More about short vs long term perspective, some with kiddos think they have right to everything too. Was probably thinking about old dogs that don't want to change their ways and find all kinds of excuses and not really think about new generations, especially when childless but not necessarily, that will inherit their dogshait.
To be fair, kids or no kids, most are generally selfish.
 

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I drove mine to caffeine and machine…it was a bit meh today to be honest and I think I’m over it for a while, or might’ve been one too many times. Could also be the fact it’s still winter.

All was well on the way back as had a fantastic drive on some empty roads back through the Cotswolds including the bit on all the Harry’s Garage videos, which I’d not done before (did it both directions then turned and did the same…quite a slippy surface though). Some interior decorative aluminium bits also arrived from Poland so will stick them on in the week.
 
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