GR86 Considering a change...

GRMatt74 said:
And not cheap to run and service.
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I’d say these prices at Allon White for instance would be pretty comparable to any Jaguar specialist, not knowing the Jag market well being fair.

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At the current run rate, my GR86 is more expensive to run annually so far than my Elise.
 
Itcaptainslow said:
I’d say these prices at Allon White for instance would be pretty comparable to any Jaguar specialist, not knowing the Jag market well being fair.

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At the current run rate, my GR86 is more expensive to run annually so far than my Elise.
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The Elise is a cheap car to run. The Evora not so much. Road tax is over £500 a year, you are lucky to get 25 mpg out of them on a spirited run. Pretty much anything on the engine other than servicing is a clam off job. Minimum £2k job.
That’s what put me off.
 
Earlier NA’s (£415) and post 2017 cars (£190) are cheaper to tax - the supercharged cars in the middle ground are the punchy ones.

When I was looking and nearly purchased (it was either a new Elise, or secondhand Evora), the NA’s are cheaper to run, offset by the later 4xx models being better built according to a couple of “in the know” folk I spoke to.

They’re absolutely wonderful things to drive, and part of me wishes I’d have gone for it. GT430 for me, if the time came again 🥰

They certainly sound a lot less troublesome than the Emira!
 
Itcaptainslow said:
Earlier NA’s (£415) and post 2017 cars (£190) are cheaper to tax - the supercharged cars in the middle ground are the punchy ones.

When I was looking and nearly purchased (it was either a new Elise, or secondhand Evora), the NA’s are cheaper to run, offset by the later 4xx models being better built according to a couple of “in the know” folk I spoke to.

They’re absolutely wonderful things to drive, and part of me wishes I’d have gone for it. GT430 for me, if the time came again 🥰

They certainly sound a lot less troublesome than the Emira!
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I drove a GT430 demo at Silverstone Lotus.
Its was good but I found the Elise far more fun to drive and also felt quicker in some ways. Think it was the extra weight which I found the issue.
It’s a nice GT car though.
 
I'm loving the GR 86, using it more at the moment and it's a spectacular bit of kit. Handling is awesome and it's just small enough to enjoy on the roads around here. I'm fortunate enough to have driven quite a few very nice cars and own some too but the GR86 is right up there from a pure enjoyment perspective. I am thinking about what I'd replace it with and the only car that feels worth it, is the Boxster GTS (as a new car). That way our 3rd car is also a convertible but it's a punchy cost to change! The other car I'd been thinking about is the Civic Type R - low cost to change and more practical, which would be useful but not sure it's worth it. Anybody swapped to something they prefer for the money? Or made a swap that they think was worthwhile?
 
HudsonHornett said:
True but always good to get people's views and see what worked for them. Sometimes it makes you think of things you hadn't considered.
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I’m happily sticking with my GR86, but one of our members ran a GR86 along with an A110 for a period of time before deciding to keep the A110 and pass the 86 on. Not sure if they are still active on here and can offer an update? It’s the car that would tempt me most, but in reality it’s twice the price, with a shorter warranty. Even if my pockets were deep enough I think the GR86 offers me a better balance right now.
 
My partner's son has a 2014 Jaguar V8 XKR (S), he has had it about 18months and i believe its done around 80k. I envisaged no end of problems but thankfully I was wrong. He has not had any issues, and apart from a service the only thing he has done is changed the exhaust as it was looking worse for wear. This thing sounds incredible, is extremely quick and looks stunning in metallic grey with black wheels.
 
Until very recently my daughter owned an A110GT, and as I was on the insurance to drive it I could drive both the A110 and my GR AT back to back on my favourite roads.
Yes the GR is half the price of the Alpine but the GR is easily more practical as a GT, being that it's luggage capacity is like an estate in comparison.
As both my GR and the Alpine are automatics this shows up how poor the 6 speed auto is in the GR..it's clearly 20 years out of date compared to the superb Getrag DCT in the Alpine.
The biggest difference to me is how the Alpine rides on its suspension, for driving on UK roads the Alpine is sublime, in comparison my GR feels like it's on springs that are much too stiff and is running solid tyres!
As for kerb appeal for me again it's the Alpine, with it's flash brakes and big wheels.
I seriously considered buying my daughter's Alpine but without a garage to keep it warm and dry in the winter I felt I was just being cruel..funny how I don't give much of a thought to leaving the GR outside on the drive...maybe it's because it's just "a Toyota " and not something hand built like the French car.
My daughters experience of Alpine service has been on a par with what GR owners on here have seen..some good, some bad..
And service costs have fluctuated wildly across dealerships, but generally it costs more per service for the Alpine.
Of course being a light weight full aluminium car with kerb weight of about 1100kgs packing 300hp I found it had a perfect amount of power and together with the turbo spooling up from 1500rpm you don't feel the need to flog the motor round the tacho, but it's nice to do it when space allows.
The surprise benefit is driving quite spirited the 1.8 returns over 40mpg so it's far more economical than my GR driven at the same speeds.
After re reading thru the above you might say why did I buy the GR?...
Some of the answer is that my wife who shares the car could not tolerate the Alpines complete lack of cabin storage - no door pockets , glove box, centre console.
The GR has much better visibility and combined with interior space you can live with makes it a clear winner for living with day in day out.
The points regarding the ride quality of the GR is only valid for UK roads as taking the car onto European roads will quickly reverse the ride quality issues .

Hey don't shoot me these are only my thoughts...

JT
 
JT99 said:
Until very recently my daughter owned an A110GT, and as I was on the insurance to drive it I could drive both the A110 and my GR AT back to back on my favourite roads.
Yes the GR is half the price of the Alpine but the GR is easily more practical as a GT, being that it's luggage capacity is like an estate in comparison.
As both my GR and the Alpine are automatics this shows up how poor the 6 speed auto is in the GR..it's clearly 20 years out of date compared to the superb Getrag DCT in the Alpine.
The biggest difference to me is how the Alpine rides on its suspension, for driving on UK roads the Alpine is sublime, in comparison my GR feels like it's on springs that are much too stiff and is running solid tyres!
As for kerb appeal for me again it's the Alpine, with it's flash brakes and big wheels.
I seriously considered buying my daughter's Alpine but without a garage to keep it warm and dry in the winter I felt I was just being cruel..funny how I don't give much of a thought to leaving the GR outside on the drive...maybe it's because it's just "a Toyota " and not something hand built like the French car.
My daughters experience of Alpine service has been on a par with what GR owners on here have seen..some good, some bad..
And service costs have fluctuated wildly across dealerships, but generally it costs more per service for the Alpine.
Of course being a light weight full aluminium car with kerb weight of about 1100kgs packing 300hp I found it had a perfect amount of power and together with the turbo spooling up from 1500rpm you don't feel the need to flog the motor round the tacho, but it's nice to do it when space allows.
The surprise benefit is driving quite spirited the 1.8 returns over 40mpg so it's far more economical than my GR driven at the same speeds.
After re reading thru the above you might say why did I buy the GR?...
Some of the answer is that my wife who shares the car could not tolerate the Alpines complete lack of cabin storage - no door pockets , glove box, centre console.
The GR has much better visibility and combined with interior space you can live with makes it a clear winner for living with day in day out.
The points regarding the ride quality of the GR is only valid for UK roads as taking the car onto European roads will quickly reverse the ride quality issues .

Hey don't shoot me these are only my thoughts...

JT
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Thank you for the real world comparison, it made for very interesting reading.
 
I nearly bought an Alpine in 2019, what gets me slightly in the increase in RRP since then. Steep. However, a lovely car.
 
MR2rob said:
My partner's son has a 2014 Jaguar V8 XKR (S), he has had it about 18months and i believe its done around 80k. I envisaged no end of problems but thankfully I was wrong. He has not had any issues, and apart from a service the only thing he has done is changed the exhaust as it was looking worse for wear. This thing sounds incredible, is extremely quick and looks stunning in metallic grey with black wheels.
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That sounds more like it. I will make a decision next spring but might keep the GR for three, or 10 years 😁 Who knows...
 
I'm not sure I could knowingly buy a v8 engine that's had 2 cylinders blocked off to make it a v6.:unsure:
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Changing your daily driver could be a solution, instead of the GR.
When you daily drive an old school LR Defender, the GR is supremely comfortable, whisper quiet, rocketship fast, modern and fuel efficient too.
It's all relative.:)
 
JT99 said:
Until very recently my daughter owned an A110GT, and as I was on the insurance to drive it I could drive both the A110 and my GR AT back to back on my favourite roads.
Yes the GR is half the price of the Alpine but the GR is easily more practical as a GT, being that it's luggage capacity is like an estate in comparison.
As both my GR and the Alpine are automatics this shows up how poor the 6 speed auto is in the GR..it's clearly 20 years out of date compared to the superb Getrag DCT in the Alpine.
The biggest difference to me is how the Alpine rides on its suspension, for driving on UK roads the Alpine is sublime, in comparison my GR feels like it's on springs that are much too stiff and is running solid tyres!
As for kerb appeal for me again it's the Alpine, with it's flash brakes and big wheels.
I seriously considered buying my daughter's Alpine but without a garage to keep it warm and dry in the winter I felt I was just being cruel..funny how I don't give much of a thought to leaving the GR outside on the drive...maybe it's because it's just "a Toyota " and not something hand built like the French car.
My daughters experience of Alpine service has been on a par with what GR owners on here have seen..some good, some bad..
And service costs have fluctuated wildly across dealerships, but generally it costs more per service for the Alpine.
Of course being a light weight full aluminium car with kerb weight of about 1100kgs packing 300hp I found it had a perfect amount of power and together with the turbo spooling up from 1500rpm you don't feel the need to flog the motor round the tacho, but it's nice to do it when space allows.
The surprise benefit is driving quite spirited the 1.8 returns over 40mpg so it's far more economical than my GR driven at the same speeds.
After re reading thru the above you might say why did I buy the GR?...
Some of the answer is that my wife who shares the car could not tolerate the Alpines complete lack of cabin storage - no door pockets , glove box, centre console.
The GR has much better visibility and combined with interior space you can live with makes it a clear winner for living with day in day out.
The points regarding the ride quality of the GR is only valid for UK roads as taking the car onto European roads will quickly reverse the ride quality issues .

Hey don't shoot me these are only my thoughts...

JT
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Yeah - the Alpine looks awesome! Haven't driven one but I think I'd like a manual . I do want to try one though.
 
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