GR86 So if there ARE going to be more GR86s, what do you think about this?

[Silver Fox]

There has been some discussion recently concerning the possibility of another batch of GR86s coming to the UK (for example here).

Now, cynical fellow that I am, I am of the opinion that it's all rather spurious, but say I'm proven to be mistaken and there are more coming than we were told/we thought, what would your views be?

Would you be delighted on behalf of your fellow car enthusiasts, more of whom would be given the opportunity to own a GR86?

Or would you be miffed, as the rarity/exclusivity (and possible future value) are important?

Did the arduous (and at times tortuous) ordering and delivery experience (still not over for some of us, let's remember) mean that you don't want some lightweight leisurely mooching in to a Toyota emporium to causally order one of 1,200 extra cars?

Those of us old enough to remember the Renault Clio Williams saga - would you feel similarly let down by Toyota as our Williams 1-owning brethren were all those years ago?

I for one would be quite happy if a few more made their way here to help satisfy the demand from those who just missed out, but if there were loads of them and they came with rear parking sensors and auto-dimming mirrors and gorgeous integrated suit hooks and they were £24,995 I'd be a bit put out.

Over to you, comrades - thoughts, as always, are most welcome!

 

[Conscript]

Positive. Don't really give a shit about exclusivity. Would love to see more on the road, in the (admittedly optimistic) hope that it might encourage other manufacturers to enter the market again.

From a practical standpoint, more cars also hopefully translates to better parts availability and should the worst happen and my car get written off or stolen, it would be nice if getting hold of a replacement was relatively easy. Because, going back to my first point, there aren't exactly many cars in the affordable fun sports car sector. If I lose my GR, I don't really have a viable replacement.

 

[Duke]

Can’t imagine anyone would think negatively about more becoming available?!

 

[TFP555]

Can’t imagine anyone would think negatively about more becoming available?!

Positive is that more enthusiasts get to own one, including my daughter whom I've firmly told she cant have mine.

Negative is future residuals for people who have been lucky enough to secure one, if more become available.

I enjoy owning rare cars, and with only 430 they'll be a rare sight.

 

[OPC100]

Yep. The more, the merrier. It will still be a rare car due to the 2024 cut-off and at least this should mean spares, etc are more readily available. And it might mean I get to see another on my travels and give a wave.

 

[v8s]

Not fussed if they bring more in, doubt they will be £24995 though, more like £34995 or more. If they do up the price and increase the spec then I may be tempted to swap for a new one (assuming the colour option includes a "proper" pearlecscent one )

 

[OPC100]

Not fussed if they bring more in, doubt they will be £24995 though, more like £34995 or more. If they do up the price and increase the spec then I may be tempted to swap for a new one (assuming the colour option includes a "proper" pearlecscent one )

Yep, wouldn't be surprised to see a £35K price if they bring more in. Just look at the current pricing on the mx5 and type r.

 

[Al4n]

Personally I think we are all very lucky to have (or nearly have) such an exclusive car.

Being in the club do I want more to join? I’m a little sceptical. Part of me thinks of the residuals. But then I realise I wouldn’t have one if it wasn’t for this forum. My dealer was going to walk me through the process on 21st April as he was on holiday on the 20th. Then I found this forum and realised it was best to get in asap!

I’ve still not met anyone who knows what the GR86 is. Quite like that.

 

[Mick]

They can build a million of them I just want my car before they start delivering the extra 1200

 

[Deleted member 534]

There aren't man. There just aren't.

 

[Duke]

There could be 10x the initial allocation and they would still be a rare sight, and the demand is there to ensure strong residuals even with vastly more cars available.

Look at the GRY where there are maybe 2500-3000 cars in the UK and only now are the very first cars dipping much under their original sale price.

 

[Silver Fox]

There aren't man. There just aren't.

I'm inclined to agree with you @Pappyjohn .

This thread and poll briefly gave me something to do on a grey February day; after all, there's only so many times one can re-read the letter of the month in the current issue of EVO magazine...

 

[AndyRC]

I'm inclined to agree with you @Pappyjohn .

This thread and poll briefly gave me something to do on a grey February day; after all, there's only so many times one can re-read the letter of the month in the current issue of EVO magazine...

You could have gone and fettled your clutch spring or changed you knob or both , appears to be a popular activity amongst “the community “

 

[Silver Fox]

You could have gone and fettled your clutch spring or changed you knob or both , appears to be a popular activity amongst “the community “

Very true!

 

[AndyRC]

Very true!

Looks like all I’ll have to do with mine is drive it apparently now’t needs changing/fiddling with

 

[AP756]

Doesn't matter how many are around as long as I can enjoy mine

Bye for now Fred

 

[Seano1878]

There could be 10x the initial allocation and they would still be a rare sight, and the demand is there to ensure strong residuals even with vastly more cars available.

Look at the GRY where there are maybe 2500-3000 cars in the UK and only now are the very first cars dipping much under their original sale price.

More than that, as of Q3 22 there were 3939 circuit pack cars on the road with 101 SORN, 174 convenience pack cars with 0 SORN and 149 standard cars with 2 SORN.

With more being delivered all the time it wouldn’t surprise me if it ends up being closer to 5K between them all. Quite a large amount really which makes residuals all the more impressive. I think people assume they are rarer than they are but I see them everywhere in Manchester.

 

[KobayashiMaru86]

Selfishly I have mine. I don't care if more get to experience it or not. The only benefit maybe more parts getting developed as currently it's all US and Japan so it's expensive to get them. Or more incentive to send more here as there's more customers, which may reduce costs for us. I'm planning never to sell so residuals don't mean much to me.

 

[OPC100]

Wow, they sold 11,996 in the USA last year.

https://www.bloomberg.com/press-rel...erica-reports-year-end-2022-u-s-sales-results

Found it in a thread on gr86.org

 

[ZN8]

Nobody will notice the difference if there were 400 cars or 800. It's still extremely rare. Currently you are more likely to see a Lamborghini Aventador than a GR86, although I couldn't care less, didn't exactly buy a Toyota for it to be a status symbol.