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Just heard, TNZ teaser info, Manual GR Supra, GR Corolla & GR Sport Hilux here next year :)

Well I assume GR sport Hilux as it doesn't have the promised 3.3 TT V6 diesel from the new Land Cruiser
 
Kiwi Greg said:
Just heard, TNZ teaser info, Manual GR Supra, GR Corolla & GR Sport Hilux here next year :)

Well I assume GR sport Hilux as it doesn't have the promised 3.3 TT V6 diesel from the new Land Cruiser
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Yes, I saw that about 5mins after posting another manual video on here😂, thing is I don't actually know which I'd go for now?
 
MarkinStoke said:
Yes, I saw that about 5mins after posting another manual video on here😂, thing is I don't actually know which I'd go for now?
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I'm very happy with the ZF 8 speed, can't really see what a manual would bring to it....

Which is strange as basically all my cars have been/are manuals, V8s most of them as well & many Manual Hiluxs
 
Is there a reputable source that we can look to for more info? Would love a Supra next if they release a manual :love:
 
Matt said:
Is there a reputable source that we can look to for more info? Would love a Supra next if they release a manual :love:
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Seen loads of reports saying "official" but I wouldn't put money on them, although there are manual gearboxes that do fit but a lot of tinkering needed
 
The auto box suits it really well. Would be interesting to see though
 
It is amazing how far auto boxes have come, the ZF box is a great auto and faster than any manual for sure. I appreciate that I'm in the minority but it won't ever be as good as 3 pedals, I wouldn't buy a new car with an auto personally unless it was alongside a manual for the weekend. Now a sequential, well I one day I hope to be in that position :D
 
Matt said:
It is amazing how far auto boxes have come, the ZF box is a great auto and faster than any manual for sure. I appreciate that I'm in the minority but it won't ever be as good as 3 pedals, I wouldn't buy a new car with an auto personally unless it was alongside a manual for the weekend. Now a sequential, well I one day I hope to be in that position :D
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I'd like to try one but unsure if I'd want one, I've found using the flappy's with the car in auto satisfies my need for quick shifting, and on the motorway just let the auto do it's thing. But you never know
 
Ok so this is going to be controversial, but as long as the discussion is polite and not full of expletives I’m ok with it , I don’t get the 3 pedal is better than two pedals thing 🤷‍♂️ I’ve mainly driven VAG DSG equipped cars but have also driven MB and Volvo autos, but every one of them changed gears quicker than I could, never missed a gear , and once I’d got used to the shift time ( virtually instant in DSG) was never an issue, was a joy to drive around town and in “Manual” mode on cross country better than 3 pedals. So why is three pedals better than 2? And as fas as I’m aware there aren’t many, any, top level motorsports formulas still using three pedals 🤔

Let the debate begin 🙂
 
The supra was my first modern auto box and while the gear changes were Uber quick I always wanted to drop a gear or 3 at the drop of the hat, four months after having the car found out that you can use the flappy's even when in auto, this has solved any issue I might have had.

And yes I did say four months😂
 
Not controversial, just personal preference isn't it. I prefer the extra aspect of control it gives which goes hand in hand with better driver involvement. I've never driven an auto which did exactly what I wanted it to all the time, it's impossible really. I'll be the first to concede that they're faster at shifting and often have a better spread of ratios, but that's not what it's all about to me. It's one of the reasons the yaris has been so celebrated, as well as being brought back on the 911 GT3s.

I fully admit that I'm old money and in the minority, and wouldn't think any less of people that prefer the autos, there's nothing wrong with them. It's just not for me.
 
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For me, I definitely feel like I’m more involved with a manual gearbox, but it doesn’t mean an auto can’t be great fun as well. The way the auto is setup makes a big difference, I’m on my third different car with the ZF 8 speed, and the way it’s set up on the Supra is way better than on the previous Jaguar and BMWs I’ve owned before. If I was in the position to have a car for the commute, and a plaything for the weekend, then the weekend toy would likely be a manual. Having one car to commute and to enjoy for a quick blast, then a good auto for me is the best compromise. If you’d have asked me a few years ago, when the only autos I’d driven were pretty awful, it’d have been manual everyday, but autos are so much better now than they used to be.
 
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Been thinking about this a bit, if the car had no significant power upgrades the manual would be a good option IMHO

Considering the difficulty in tuning the new models it is quite likely most new ones will stay unmodified power wise

To be fair my Supra without its BM3 stage 2 tune is pretty docile so would suit the manual nicely,

I'm not convinced it would be so nice to drive at its modified power level with a manual compared to the ZF especially in sport mode
 
I wonder if the GR Yaris would have had any less sales if had only been offered with a DCT , 6/7 speed 🤔
 
AndyRC said:
I wonder if the GR Yaris would have had any less sales if had only been offered with a DCT , 6/7 speed 🤔
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I wouldn't have bought one. I feel auto gearboxes change up too soon and changes down to late for my liking.

I've tried VAG and BMW ones and found the BMW ones to be quicker to react and smoother all around but it's manual or if I want clutch less it would be single speed electric for me.

I'd love a 2.0 litre Supra with a manual gearbox.
 
Pappyjohn said:
I wouldn't have bought one. I feel auto gearboxes change up too soon and changes down to late for my liking.

I've tried VAG and BMW ones and found the BMW ones to be quicker to react and smoother all around but it's manual or if I want clutch less it would be single speed electric for me.

I'd love a 2.0 litre Supra with a manual gearbox.
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I too wouldn't have bought one.

But the only auto I have recent experience with isan E60 so I'm sure not a patch on modern ones, actually I have driven a vag one as a hire a couple of years ago and didn't like it, but just a 2.0 tdi golf, entirely different.

A manual for me is about the downshift engagement hitting a corner with gear braking and hitting hard on the apex, I don't know if paddles give that sort of driving.

The Yaris was the choice for me at the time for this very reason, if the Supra had a manual offering last year I would have been very tempted to go that way as BMW's have always been a thing for me alongside Toyotas, anyway love my GRY but think a manual Supra is definitely a good idea
 
www.roadandtrack.com

The Toyota Supra Is Almost Definitely Getting a Manual

A source at Toyota suggested to Road & Track that the recent leaks have merit. The Supra is getting a maual.
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AndyRC said:
I wonder if the GR Yaris would have had any less sales if had only been offered with a DCT , 6/7 speed 🤔
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I wouldn't have bought one.

I can see the appeal of auto/DSG boxes but I don't find them as engaging as you don't have to physically do as much. Gear changing, bliping the throttle, heel n toe are enjoyable techniques to learn.

I assume the reason manual's are seen as "Drivers" cars is the additional engagement. The more the car does for you (and modern cars do ALOT for the driver) the less it's about your personal skill. Whether people actually have any skill is another matter but the idea that more of what happens with the car is down to you and not the car is what I think attracts people.
 
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