GR Yaris Knock Correct Learn Value

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Starting a thread on this specific value to seek more information on this.
Particular on improving this number.


What I found so far, without disregarding the fact it is part of a safety feature of the ECU:

-This retarding value for optimum power levels maxes out around 25.

-There seem to be 2 KCLV’s operating regions: low RPM and high RPM (below and above 4000RPM, about the same as the changeover from port to direct injection).

-The low KCLV changes faster than the high KCLV value.

A company in Japan called Vehicle Field
apparently developed a special method that brought both regions to 24.1 in approximately five minutes.

Now that would be very interesting to know!
Since slow driving alters this value too, it seems it does not stick.
However the low-rpm KCLV recovers quickly.

A quick glance in Techstream showed mine at 21.9
I took this reading from a standstill and idling, so this value says nothing about the high RPM KCLV.

ChatGPT found some more info on this matter from that same company.

They describe a modification intended to:
-Make the learned value less likely to fall.
-Make it easier to recover after falling.
-Maintain higher learning values during summer.

But the detailed procedure is behind a paid article. So Chat is not able to come up with more details.
But it would certainly be interesting to know how we could maintain this higher value.
(Besides the obvious as to fill up consistent premium fuel.)
 
This is from the GR Yaris service manual:

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This is from the GR Yaris service manual:

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Excellent information! Thank you.
I think this ads to the puzzel of why this ECU is not making the same amount of power every time we take her out.

Ofcourse it has all to do with safety.
But when there is (or better yet ‘was’) no knocking present I wander why the timing advance does not stay at the highest number for that specific load?

For the low-RPM region, it quickly returns.
But in those instances when you ask the most power (the high-RPM region) it takes al lot of time to get that maximum power back.
Because it does not retain that highest learned value.

I guess when those guys in Japan understood the way this ECU works they came up with this sort of ‘sequence’ to get the ECU to learn those high values within 5 minutes of doeing something🤷🏻‍♂️
 
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