Does that make the 3000GT your 2nd choice car?I've always had an affinity for Japanese cars and the GR86 is the best modern iteration of all the things I love. The other Jap cars in the fleet are also enjoyed and the 488 feels special for the few occasions a year it gets used but the GR86 is a genuine delight. It's also normally 'downstairs' and I'm lazy.
GR86 GR86 - My review after 3k miles and why I'm selling it.
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So thru. I have the same feeling. I have had porsche GT3 and most of the time it was sitting in the garage. My GR Yaris and GR86 i have the most fun in. My heavy weight champion M2c is not moving at all atm. Becuase Toyota brings more fun.
Yes I adore that car, always wanted one and managed to find a good original one. It's interesting to drive it after the GR86. It's nearly 30 years old but much more refined and better riding than the GR (nothing wrong with the GR just my observation). The active aero / 4wd etc are all fully working and that car has been pampered by the local Mitsubishi dealer who have been great.
There is definitely some turbo lag but once it spoils up its sounds delicious.
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Interesting next car choices as they were the cars that I chose to look at after I missed out on a gr86. I bought a brand new BMW 230i which I'm happy with. It has the right balance between performance and running costs for me. After owning 2 GT86's the difference in interior quality is massive. The 230i is also a quick car especially compared to the Gt86. Same engine as a Supra 2.0 which I also considered but the fact its £7k more than a decently specced BMW didn't make sense to me. The m240i would have been nice but the extra running costs were the reason I chose a 230i. I will admit the GR86 is a better looking car and I think the best looking car you can get new for under £50k. There isn't anything that comes near it for under £50k for looks. Even the Supra 2.0 is over £50k which is mad in my opinion. I think if you got an m240i it would be an excellent choice and insanely fast as well.
Bmw does make nice daily cars. But it is not a drivers car for fun in cornering. The lightweight and the steering feel in the gr86 is so addictive even my M2c feels like a boat!
Is that the new m2? It's got an interesting front. I kinda like it and if you read the reviews they all rave about the car.
M2c is previous gen F87.
Reviews aren't all raving on the new one. New one is even heavier and less playfull again. Apparently the auto is the one to go for, which says quite a lot what kind of car it actually is, way more fast GT type car then nimble sportscar....
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New M2 is 1700kg. that is even worse then my M2c.
Bmw brings as Onehp says only GT cars. No Agility like the Yaris GR or GR86.
Nice fast daily cars! To heavy to bring a smile on youre face on track or backroads.
I have been driving my BMW M2c in sweden on snowy roads. My G.. the weight was killing all the fun and very long braking distances. Last year i had taken the Yaris GR to Sweden. That was by far the best sweden trip i have done in my life. It was like driving a rally car. It brakes it steers. It was so nice. I am sure the GR86 would be awesome too. On snow and ice you feel the weight even more!
Bmw brings as Onehp says only GT cars. No Agility like the Yaris GR or GR86.
Nice fast daily cars! To heavy to bring a smile on youre face on track or backroads.
I have been driving my BMW M2c in sweden on snowy roads. My G.. the weight was killing all the fun and very long braking distances. Last year i had taken the Yaris GR to Sweden. That was by far the best sweden trip i have done in my life. It was like driving a rally car. It brakes it steers. It was so nice. I am sure the GR86 would be awesome too. On snow and ice you feel the weight even more!
Yeah totally agree. My 230i is more of a GT car and not a light nimble sports car like the GR86 or GT86 for that matter. Also no manual in the new 2 series either which is a shame. But it's a sign of the times unfortunately. The choice out there is very limited. I thought I was on the GR86 waiting list as I signed up on the day they sold out but I haven't received the email about further allocation. I guess Toyota really don't want to sell me one even though I bought 2 brand new GT86's.
You guys are comparing totally different cars in totally different sectors.
Gr86
230/240
Supra
I might as well compare an Up GTi with an i20 with a Cayman and conclude the Cayman kicks their asses but the i20 is best on motorways and the Up is great for a weekend blast. I don't even know what I'm on about at this stage and have basically argued away my point
Gr86
230/240
Supra
I might as well compare an Up GTi with an i20 with a Cayman and conclude the Cayman kicks their asses but the i20 is best on motorways and the Up is great for a weekend blast. I don't even know what I'm on about at this stage and have basically argued away my point
I disagree. In marketing and mainstream perception, a M2 or 2 series coupe is still considered a 'small sportscar', the smallest model on offer, and with several larger offerings there too.
We're just saying it aint small and it certainly ain't light. As for the advertising - the ultimate driving machine, it squarely puts them against, well, actual driving machines....
We're just saying it aint small and it certainly ain't light. As for the advertising - the ultimate driving machine, it squarely puts them against, well, actual driving machines....
You guys are comparing totally different cars in totally different sectors.
Gr86
230/240
Supra
I might as well compare an Up GTi with an i20 with a Cayman and conclude the Cayman kicks their asses but the i20 is best on motorways and the Up is great for a weekend blast. I don't even know what I'm on about at this stage and have basically argued away my point
I can only go by my position but they all fit into my consideration list. Whilst looking for a new (not so much brand new) car I considered an M2, Supra, Cayman and F Type. Whilst these are all awesome machines and in many regards 'superior' to the 86, not one can do what the GR86 does.
For me the GR86 is almost the perfect rwd car. Weight and size is perfect i just wish it had 300hp.
sweetspot is 1200kg and 300hp.
sweetspot is 1200kg and 300hp.
Silver Fox
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Possibly for track use; for me personally at this time in my life I find the 1200kg (and a bit) and the 230-odd bhp of the GR86 spot on for UK roads.
I like how I can use all the revs (where safe/appropriate) and not end up going too fast.
The slightly rough and ready nature of the car (e.g. lack of soundproofing) makes it feel faster than it is a lot of the time and that's perfect for me and my needs.
I totally appreciate the appeal of things like a more powerful 2 series for doing a lot of miles swiftly and comfortably, but it's just not for me.
I honestly think the only car I'd give up my 86 for is an(other) air cooled 911.
KobayashiMaru86
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I've had this a few times now. Making progress with Dad the other day, thinking I maybe pushing a bit hard, chasing a 1972 Triumph Stag of all things, and glance at speedo and it's nowhere near how fast I've been on that particular road before, even if it still wasn't slow. It's ideal for me too. And still returns a good MPG as since you aren't flat out all the time, you catch traffic so it often averages out to a sensible figure anyway,
Haven't had the chance to drive the GR86 yet (though I got a message today saying the car I ordered after I opted to go to the back of the queue has arrived) but an early 911 does the long distance journeys fine and is a blast on B roads. I did at trip in mine last summer. 800 miles over three days - M4 and Welsh mountains. It will take a lot to beat driving a 911T running on Webers into Betys-y-coed on a sunny June evening, spot of dinner at a pub then a drive back to South Wales as the sun goes down.
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There's been a few of our number who have moved to or considered a Supra or one of the more powerful 2 series BMWs (230i 'up', for want of a better phrase).
Had anyone considered the current Z4? It seems kind of forgotten about here. Is there a reason for this?
I think it looks a bit odd with the massive overhangs, but don't really know much about it.
Had anyone considered the current Z4? It seems kind of forgotten about here. Is there a reason for this?
I think it looks a bit odd with the massive overhangs, but don't really know much about it.
