GR Yaris (Gen 2) GR Yaris Mk2 (MY2024->)

Now we have hey Toyota have so far controlled wipers, windows and air con all with voice 🤣
Yeah, theoretically they could use gesture control from BMW and than 2 HUD's or something. But using those is WAY harder than touchscreens :P
I also think touchscreens aren't looking great, but it's just impossible to have a car without it.
I liked the small screen in the Porsche 991/718 and the Audi TT as a solution. But will also not work for all settings.
 
Yeah, theoretically they could use gesture control from BMW and than 2 HUD's or something. But using those is WAY harder than touchscreens :P
I also think touchscreens aren't looking great, but it's just impossible to have a car without it.
I liked the small screen in the Porsche 991/718 and the Audi TT as a solution. But will also not work for all settings.
Yeah, I don't think screens are particularly graceful looking and some are certainly more tacked on than others, but technology has moved to a point where having a phone cradle on the dash for actual maps is a bit of a thing of the past (yes, some use cradles still but the trend is moving towards wireless charging and putting phones in centre consoles) it's probably for the best. I suspect retrofits will become available for stuff like that
 
On paper I was against the mk2 gauges but seeing them live its quite ok. simple and seems to be responsive.
It’s super responsive and actually really useful. I love that you can save up to three different gauge setups and fully customize them. For example, for track days, I’ve got oil and coolant temps on one side, a big gear number in the middle, and tire pressures on the right.

Honestly, I wasn’t thrilled with the new dashboard when I saw the initial press release pics, but I’ve got to admit – I’m really lovin’ it now!

*Added a slightly blurry shot from yesterday’s track session

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It’s super responsive and actually really useful. I love that you can save up to three different gauge setups and fully customize them. For example, for track days, I’ve got oil and coolant temps on one side, a big gear number in the middle, and tire pressures on the right.

Honestly, I wasn’t thrilled with the new dashboard when I saw the initial press release pics, but I’ve got to admit – I’m really lovin’ it now!

*Added a slightly blurry shot from yesterday’s track session
...another dubious trend of these new TFT's is the tachometer being a flat/sliding bar... I just hate it, specially because it's linked to the most "sporty" modes. IMO, not intuitive/accurate at all when quickly glance it. WHY??
 
...another dubious trend of these new TFT's is the tachometer being a flat/sliding bar... I just hate it, specially because it's linked to the most "sporty" modes. IMO, not intuitive/accurate at all when quickly glance it. WHY??
Because race cars have been running that style since at least the 90’s.
 
...another dubious trend of these new TFT's is the tachometer being a flat/sliding bar... I just hate it, specially because it's linked to the most "sporty" modes. IMO, not intuitive/accurate at all when quickly glance it. WHY??
You can also change that to a more "analog" layout, but I like this one better as it's not linear and I don't care about low revs that much :)
 
I get it—digital screens are supposed to “organize” what would otherwise be a nightmare of buttons, potentially hundreds. But that’s exactly the issue here: hundreds of features, endless settings, and customizations, 95% of which are nothing but useless gimmicks. The best cars of the past—the NSX, Supra, Skyline—had just a handful of buttons, and guess what? We managed just fine. They were focused, reliable machines, built for drivers, not for people who need a user manual just to turn on the defrost.

This is precisely why cars today are so damn unreliable. Every one of them is bogged down with endless settings, sensors, and updates that create constant headaches, sending owners back to the service center on a loop. It’s a vicious cycle of features nobody asked for, but we’re told we “need.” Sure, some of this tech is required by regulations, but a massive chunk of these features exist just to tick boxes and lure buyers with the illusion of “customization.” Because, apparently, you can’t live without 10 different traction modes or climate controls with hundreds of settings instead of a simple, practical knob.

It’s sad to see cars heading down this inevitable path of becoming little more than over-engineered computers on wheels, stuffed with tech and assists that only get in the way. The MK1 already irritates me with all its “driver aids”; I can’t even imagine how infuriating the MK2 must be in that department. The one thing they actually got right on the MK2? Ditching the auto start-stop. Shocking, really, given how everyone swore it was mandated. And yet, here we are, miraculously surviving without it.

It’s all just a travesty, this fixation on technology over true driving experience. The real tragedy? We’re not even at the peak of this madness yet. It’s only going to get worse. This is exactly why I’m convinced that cars with analog dials are going to be highly sought after. Give it time.
 
When we were hearing about the GT86 coming out how many people said - great, keep it basic and simple - and they did.
How long did it take before it was being knocked because it was too basic up to German cars. Those that bought it loved it appart from the power dip.
David Coultard was asked which was his most fun car. He explained why he loved driving an old Ford escort van. He could throw it about and it was great fun. We seem to have lost that thinking and now look at "flashy" is king.
As an apprentice trained engineer who's job was to buy machines, cad-cam and equipment my rule was reliability and quality of manufacture. That meant simplicity of design.
I see both sided these days. It's nice to have the latest tech but it is also nice to own the original first design.
I think digital displays are much easier to change on each iteration of the car so will change each time and used as a selling point to make people buy the new one. If toyota continue to bring out new models of the GRY the first original one will become sought after if in a mint condition - not by the young boy racers who want the latest of everything but the older owners who want the original and first one.
Whichever we own they are a damn good fun car.
 
Had a poke around this one at Newbridge this afternoon.

Wouldn’t mind a drive in one but ultimately not how I’d spend £45k.

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When we were hearing about the GT86 coming out how many people said - great, keep it basic and simple - and they did.
How long did it take before it was being knocked because it was too basic up to German cars. Those that bought it loved it appart from the power dip.
David Coultard was asked which was his most fun car. He explained why he loved driving an old Ford escort van. He could throw it about and it was great fun. We seem to have lost that thinking and now look at "flashy" is king.
As an apprentice trained engineer who's job was to buy machines, cad-cam and equipment my rule was reliability and quality of manufacture. That meant simplicity of design.
I see both sided these days. It's nice to have the latest tech but it is also nice to own the original first design.
I think digital displays are much easier to change on each iteration of the car so will change each time and used as a selling point to make people buy the new one. If toyota continue to bring out new models of the GRY the first original one will become sought after if in a mint condition - not by the young boy racers who want the latest of everything but the older owners who want the original and first one.
Whichever we own they are a damn good fun car.
But the only way to keep a car mint is by not using it. Also as we’re seeing now the low mileage cars aren’t selling at RRP so currently not sought after.

I suspect a lot of those who wish for mint examples are ex Ford owners thinking they will make a profit in 30 years time. Problem is most of them are probably 60+ so will never see the return (and let’s not forget Toyotas of the same era have not seen the same returns).

These cars are for using not storing.
 
But the only way to keep a car mint is by not using it. Also as we’re seeing now the low mileage cars aren’t selling at RRP so currently not sought after.

I suspect a lot of those who wish for mint examples are ex Ford owners thinking they will make a profit in 30 years time. Problem is most of them are probably 60+ so will never see the return (and let’s not forget Toyotas of the same era have not seen the same returns).

These cars are for using not storing.
You're right, but you have to wear out one generation at a time
 
When we were hearing about the GT86 coming out how many people said - great, keep it basic and simple - and they did.
How long did it take before it was being knocked because it was too basic up to German cars. Those that bought it loved it appart from the power dip.
David Coultard was asked which was his most fun car. He explained why he loved driving an old Ford escort van. He could throw it about and it was great fun. We seem to have lost that thinking and now look at "flashy" is king.
As an apprentice trained engineer who's job was to buy machines, cad-cam and equipment my rule was reliability and quality of manufacture. That meant simplicity of design.
I see both sided these days. It's nice to have the latest tech but it is also nice to own the original first design.
I think digital displays are much easier to change on each iteration of the car so will change each time and used as a selling point to make people buy the new one. If toyota continue to bring out new models of the GRY the first original one will become sought after if in a mint condition - not by the young boy racers who want the latest of everything but the older owners who want the original and first one.
Whichever we own they are a damn good fun car.
Great explanation & post👍.

Had to reply and agree.
I've never owned a car from new , my own cars were always purchased to compete in and enjoy, I'd look for a solid standard example & I'd work on them myself .
I always wanted an homologation special , as soon as the GR was announced , I watched every video I could find, I walked into the local Toyota dealers who didn't even know what I was on about, I walked out dissapointed , the sales manager followed me out and we went back inside, I left my deposit on the Red Scarlet Flare .
The car is 4 years old Dec and on under 3 k miles, never thought It would be in the garage more than the road,😪
There is a reason but I'll not go into that, I've basically become the person I said I'd never be when competing, a cheque book hero , I said I wouldn't mod, it genuinely is quick enough as is for my purpose, I'm purchasing parts already which will be fitted as and when the other OE part fails.
I agree with Escrobin they need to be driven, I'm hoping things will change for me when I move, PS I'm Escrobin I'm 60 + lol, must admit your MK2 is the perfect colour I'm looking at the photos and the car seems to be running a little rake which suits the look, possibly just the suspension settling in being new.

Sorry for the long reply .

Regards Russ......🙏
 
MAGX, that usually is a reliable source of news by Japanese Car Manufacturers, hints at plans by Toyota to introduce a new special edition for the GRY... 🤔

https://mag-x.jp/2024/10/23/26781/
New GRMN perhaps?

Mine hasn’t stayed clean long. Halfway to being run in as of today with 250miles planned tomorrow.

A couple of things, I’ve filled up twice now and only getting 200miles show on the tank gauge (and it appears to be accurate) my old one was just over 300miles from a fill up but I’m also driving differently due to running in.

The other one is the left display box on the dash doesn’t appear to keep what you set there. It constantly reverts to trip time/distance and if you remove that from the options it’s blank…..

Regarding ride my wife has said it’s “smoother” which I guess is a plus but hitting bumps definitely feels more of a whack.

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New GRMN perhaps?

Mine hasn’t stayed clean long. Halfway to being run in as of today with 250miles planned tomorrow.

A couple of things, I’ve filled up twice now and only getting 200miles show on the tank gauge (and it appears to be accurate) my old one was just over 300miles from a fill up but I’m also driving differently due to running in.

The other one is the left display box on the dash doesn’t appear to keep what you set there. It constantly reverts to trip time/distance and if you remove that from the options it’s blank…..

Regarding ride my wife has said it’s “smoother” which I guess is a plus but hitting bumps definitely feels more of a whack.

Yes, I guess you are right, it could be the GRMN, and my financial stability is already threatened by the possibility that this time it could come to Europe too... :eek:

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New GRMN perhaps?

Mine hasn’t stayed clean long. Halfway to being run in as of today with 250miles planned tomorrow.

A couple of things, I’ve filled up twice now and only getting 200miles show on the tank gauge (and it appears to be accurate) my old one was just over 300miles from a fill up but I’m also driving differently due to running in.

The other one is the left display box on the dash doesn’t appear to keep what you set there. It constantly reverts to trip time/distance and if you remove that from the options it’s blank…..

Regarding ride my wife has said it’s “smoother” which I guess is a plus but hitting bumps definitely feels more of a whack.

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Can you keep us posted on the MPG/Range details? Plus what mud flaps are those? Look good! Thanks for the updates btw!
 
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