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TrueFunny to use Quasimodo to describe the dash when the humpback from the MK1 dash has been removed.
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GR Yaris (Gen 2) GR Yaris Mk2 (MY2024->)
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I like this a lot too. The analog gauges are fine, but I don't like the tiny LCD in the middle.
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The new dash reminds me of an MK4 supra. Nobody mentions it at all, the car as a whole is an icon. I think both MK1 and MK2 GRY are too.!
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System malfunction, visit your dealer! Oops
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If the GR Yaris 2.0 dash was similar to this with the digital instrument cluster then yes, but it just doesn’t flow, Fugly springs to mind.
Sam
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If this had manual boost gauge it would be perfect.
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You are so right... Maybe I will give up to temptation in the end, and use them more often than I planned to.
This is why I opted to fit a HUD in my circuit pack.
Apart from that though the mk2 interior is a mix of design choices which ends up looking like something out of a HGV. Also I'm not just saying that because I can't afford a mk2!!
I'm right there with you. I can't stand digital dashboards like the ones in the new BMWs and other cars. They look so tacky. I mean, the retro digital dash look on the MK2 isn't as bad as some others, but it's still digital and it just doesn't have the feel of classic analog gauges.
One of the main reasons I went for the MK1 was because of its analog gauges, believe it or not. The simpler, the better. They look perfect to me and remind me so much of the B5 RS4 gauges. The best thing about analog gauges is they never look outdated or old. They age really well, while digital dashboards quickly look old-fashioned, even the ones trying to look "retro" with a square design.
Something no one talks about is how much easier on the eyes analog gauges are. That's never going to change. Digital gauges, no matter how much anti-glare coating they have, are always more distracting and worse for your eyes, whether they're LCD or LED.
The only upside of digital gauges is that they can be customized to show different screens, making them easier to read on the track, but that hardly matters since 99.9% of the time, these cars are driven on regular roads.
IMO, analog gauges = timeless
…or I’m just old
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I don't agree honestly. You mention how the gauges in the RS4 aged really well. But there is an ugly as f*ck red LCD display in the middle. I think the current Audi interiors look way better than that old one.I'm right there with you. I can't stand digital dashboards like the ones in the new BMWs and other cars. They look so tacky. I mean, the retro digital dash look on the MK2 isn't as bad as some others, but it's still digital and it just doesn't have the feel of classic analog gauges.
One of the main reasons I went for the MK1 was because of its analog gauges, believe it or not. The simpler, the better. They look perfect to me and remind me so much of the B5 RS4 gauges. The best thing about analog gauges is they never look outdated or old. They age really well, while digital dashboards quickly look old-fashioned, even the ones trying to look "retro" with a square design.
Something no one talks about is how much easier on the eyes analog gauges are. That's never going to change. Digital gauges, no matter how much anti-glare coating they have, are always more distracting and worse for your eyes, whether they're LCD or LED.
The only upside of digital gauges is that they can be customized to show different screens, making them easier to read on the track, but that hardly matters since 99.9% of the time, these cars are driven on regular roads.
IMO, analog gauges = timeless
…or I’m just old
Word. For similar reasons HUD doesn't work for me either, it takes longer time for my eyes to 'autofocus' back and forth as it strains my eyes to to look at the HUD, and therefore loses the whole purpose of showing it up on the screen. On top of that it can be distracting when trying to read the road. It's worse at night too. Better to develop ones peripheral driving vision while quickly glancing at analog instruments...
(I'm old too
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CerN
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I tend to agree, and prefer analogue gauges myself. Despite my field being computer science.
The only retro digital stuff that never stops being cool is the stuff from Alien (1979) and I say that as someone who was born in 1990.
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I’ve no problem with digital dashes…if they are well implemented.
100,000 km in my Audi and I’ve yet to find fault with it there. The designs, configurations, clarity, and general “doesn’t look like a screen”-ness of it is fine.
However, I hired some Peugeot thing a few months ago and the one in that was shocking. Ugly, hard to get it to show what you wanted, and not high enough resolution or refresh rate.
Given the dismal spec of the screen in the original Yaris I’m going to wait and see which camp the new car’s screens fall into before making judgement.
100,000 km in my Audi and I’ve yet to find fault with it there. The designs, configurations, clarity, and general “doesn’t look like a screen”-ness of it is fine.
However, I hired some Peugeot thing a few months ago and the one in that was shocking. Ugly, hard to get it to show what you wanted, and not high enough resolution or refresh rate.
Given the dismal spec of the screen in the original Yaris I’m going to wait and see which camp the new car’s screens fall into before making judgement.
It sounds obvious, but I like that analogue dials physically move. This is partly why I like mechanical watches and would never bother with an Apple Watch. No screen can replicate the 'feeling' that the engine is directly connected to the rev counter – however good the pixel density and refresh rate.
You could argue the new dash is more true to modern WRC cars, I suppose. Shift lights are definitely handy, and likely make changing gear at the right tight slightly easier. Also, when you're driving through speed camera zones, having a nice big digital MPH readout is pretty useful (something I use on the current GR Yaris).
But when I'm having fun, I don't really want my GR to do too much of the work for me. Timing your shifts using an analogue needle is a skill—mastering it is part of the fun, IMO. It makes driving much more rewarding.
You could argue the new dash is more true to modern WRC cars, I suppose. Shift lights are definitely handy, and likely make changing gear at the right tight slightly easier. Also, when you're driving through speed camera zones, having a nice big digital MPH readout is pretty useful (something I use on the current GR Yaris).
But when I'm having fun, I don't really want my GR to do too much of the work for me. Timing your shifts using an analogue needle is a skill—mastering it is part of the fun, IMO. It makes driving much more rewarding.
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Agree. I have a 2022 Audi SQ7 and the screen is amazing. Had some loan cars from Toyota with cheap shit screens and it's not comparing apples with apples.
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In the days when there was a physical, rotating cable between the gearbox and the speedo this made some sense, but most (all?) cars have had some kind of electro-mechanical or fully electric speedo for years, so this isn't really the case now.
Given that, there is always some kind of translation/interface between the gearbox output and the thing your eyes see. A purely digital dash in theory actually removes one step in the chain, the final digital-analogue conversion and calibration (smoothing, interpolation, ramp speed etc. )
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GRandemakina
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..soo... in that sense the Mk2 should have been cheaper than the Mk1 - not the other way around!
Oooh. I want analogue dials AND a HUD. I too am old.Word. For similar reasons HUD doesn't work for me either, it takes longer time for my eyes to 'autofocus' back and forth as it strains my eyes to to look at the HUD, and therefore loses the whole purpose of showing it up on the screen. On top of that it can be distracting when trying to read the road. It's worse at night too. Better to develop ones peripheral driving vision while quickly glancing at analog instruments...
(I'm old too
