GR86 GR Paint Inspection - !Important!

KobayashiMaru86 said:
Get the feeling this won't really be a new car wash. It's going to need a full decontamination.
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Unfortunately you are right, That grime has been baked on for months, during the hottest summer on record with transport film residue thrown in for good measure. If you let the dealer do it, you will have to add paint correction to the list too.
 
KobayashiMaru86 said:
Get the feeling this won't really be a new car wash. It's going to need a full decontamination.
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Oh hellls yes!

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Yeah there's nothing like detailing a brand new car. Did it with the bike last. Last car barely saw a handful of washes, let alone a detail on 7 years. That changes with this one. Bought loads of new kit and once I start I won't stop until it's done.
 
What does a contactless wash (that's no a waste of time) actually involve? Please forgive my ignorance.
 
Contactless maintanence washes in winter makes everything so much easier and warmer as you can do it wrapped up with gloves on lol

Spray on your pre-wash like Citrus Power and leave to eat the grime - sort out your pressure washer and load the snow foamer lance with the foam of your choice. By the times that's happened the pre-wash has had 5 to 10 mins to work. Then spray on your snow foam - wait the manufacturers recommended time and simply pressure wash it all off (remembering to never approach your paintwork straight on - always about 45 deg on) and you'll have 90-95% of the crud gone.
You can leave it as that as the car will look much cleaner but if you then want to carry on, you'll be safe to use a mitt and 2 buckets as most of the swirl creating muck has been removed.
 
This thread seems to be the best place to put this....I dropped my car in at KDS Keltec yesterday morning, with the aim being to have a ceramic coating applied, and paint correction if required. Just had a call from them giving me a report on the paintwork, and they've sent some videos going over the details.

Good news is, the sticker residues came off with chemicals (they didn't say what, but I imagine it was fallout or reside/tar remover).
Bad news is; even though my car is brand new, and wasn't washed at the dealer, it's still going to need a couple of passes of polishing. There's nothing horrendous, but there's quite a lot of swirling in the paint, and evidence of a rotary polisher being used on the rear bumper. This is apparently pretty common for even brand-new vehicles.

Nothing that can't be fixed, and luckily I had actually budgeted for a decent, proper detail/ceramic coat, as it's something I've always wanted to have done to a car. But it might mean some intense questioning from my girlfriend over why I'm about to spend £1500 getting a brand new car washed. If you don't see me again after this post, she has killed me and buried me in the garden, call the police.

I suppose I could always just tell her @ZN8 is spending £3K on PPF, so comparatively it's a good deal :p
 
Haha, in my case it's don't ask don't tell. I've kept details vague.

I was fulling expect at least a single stage paint correction, no point putting an all singing, all dancing ceramic coat (and PPF) on a car with paint defects, it's massed produced, there is no way it's going to be flawless.
 
ZN8 said:
Haha, in my case it's don't ask don't tell. I've kept details vague.

I was fulling expect at least a single stage paint correction, no point putting an all singing, all dancing ceramic coat (and PPF) on a car with paint defects, it's massed produced, there is no way it's going to be flawless.
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Indeed. Jay (is that who you've spoken to as well?) said he did some test patches, but had to cut quite aggressively to get rid of some of the swirls and scratches, so it needs another pass to finish.

On the plus side, I'm hoping it will really bring out the best of the electric blue colour.
 
Conscript said:
This thread seems to be the best place to put this....I dropped my car in at KDS Keltec yesterday morning, with the aim being to have a ceramic coating applied, and paint correction if required. Just had a call from them giving me a report on the paintwork, and they've sent some videos going over the details.

Good news is, the sticker residues came off with chemicals (they didn't say what, but I imagine it was fallout or reside/tar remover).
Bad news is; even though my car is brand new, and wasn't washed at the dealer, it's still going to need a couple of passes of polishing. There's nothing horrendous, but there's quite a lot of swirling in the paint, and evidence of a rotary polisher being used on the rear bumper. This is apparently pretty common for even brand-new vehicles.

Nothing that can't be fixed, and luckily I had actually budgeted for a decent, proper detail/ceramic coat, as it's something I've always wanted to have done to a car. But it might mean some intense questioning from my girlfriend over why I'm about to spend £1500 getting a brand new car washed. If you don't see me again after this post, she has killed me and buried me in the garden, call the police.

I suppose I could always just tell her @ZN8 is spending £3K on PPF, so comparatively it's a good deal :p
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That's unfortunate that you have a lot of swirl marks in your paint, but I can confirm that incidents at manufaturing plant where damage occurs is pretty frequent. Hope it comes out great!
 
A single stage paint correction is pretty much necessary for any new car detail to look really good. Cars don't come looking their best from factory and I've got a few products I'll be using to correct and protect the paint once the weather warms up.

I've asked for my car to have all stickers off and be rinsed without anything touching the paintwork. It came out looking pretty decent and the stickers glue residue wasn't too bad, so I'm pleased with it overall. It will need a proper decontamination wash and seal over the next few days, but I'm leaving the paint correction till after temperatures are above 10 degrees.

@Conscript has your detailer taken any paint measurements before going at it with the polisher? I'll try to do that over the weekend if the weather allows for a quick decon wash, would be interesting to see the thickness of the clear coat, as I'm told Toyota paint tends to be quite thin and soft.

I'm intending on using 3dOne Hybrid with a soft polishing pad, as there are no deeper marks, but I'll make that decision when I've done a few test spots.
 
beorg said:
A single stage paint correction is pretty much necessary for any new car detail to look really good. Cars don't come looking their best from factory and I've got a few products I'll be using to correct and protect the paint once the weather warms up.

I've asked for my car to have all stickers off and be rinsed without anything touching the paintwork. It came out looking pretty decent and the stickers glue residue wasn't too bad, so I'm pleased with it overall. It will need a proper decontamination wash and seal over the next few days, but I'm leaving the paint correction till after temperatures are above 10 degrees.

@Conscript has your detailer taken any paint measurements before going at it with the polisher? I'll try to do that over the weekend if the weather allows for a quick decon wash, would be interesting to see the thickness of the clear coat, as I'm told Toyota paint tends to be quite thin and soft.
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I think they will have done or will do before the full correction. They have a few videos on their YT channel where they talk about Japanese paints being softer than most and are quite well known in the industry. So expensive at it is, I've got a lot of confidence in them.
 
ZN8 said:
I was fulling expect at least a single stage paint correction, no point putting an all singing, all dancing ceramic coat (and PPF) on a car with paint defects, it's massed produced, there is no way it's going to be flawless.
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Strangely, many PPF installers say that correction isn't required before PPF (other than properly decontaminating and such) because the PPF is thick enough to essentially fill the swirls and levels out the paintwork anyway. I've seen this done and I was not expecting good results but the cars looked great.
I've told my place to do whatever is necessary so I'm dreading the bill.
 
Conscript said:
I suppose I could always just tell her @ZN8 is spending £3K on PPF, so comparatively it's a good deal :p
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Only £3k ? Amateur!
LukeC22 said:
Strangely, many PPF installers say that correction isn't required before PPF (other than properly decontaminating and such) because the PPF is thick enough to essentially fill the swirls and levels out the paintwork anyway. I've seen this done and I was not expecting good results but the cars looked great.
I've told my place to do whatever is necessary so I'm dreading the bill.
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In my experience of getting cars PPF'd that's the case. It's always better to NOT take paint / clear coat off a car in you can help it anyway - the paintwork is only so thick and Japanease paint is notoriously thin to start with anyway.

The PPF is like an extra clearcoat which hides the imperfections underneath. Save machine polishing them out for if / when the PPF comes off for whatever reason.
 
Hmm. May just contactless wash then do clay, hand polish and go back to Fusso coat for now. Then pay to get a single stage correction and use my Ceramic I have. My local guy is booked for months. The ceramic I have is by some guys in Worcester (Pyramid) so I could go there but is a 2hr drive for me, then it would probably take a day or two to do, depending how bad it is.
 
Ive accepted a garage wash, I want to be able to see any blemishes from the outset and pick them up before taking delivery.

Ive bought a bottle of Graphene from Autofinesse which ill apply then just use the car. Its not a show pony, i've bought it to drive and that's what will be happening.
 
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