Electric Cars
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Seems your wonderful government fails to pluck these low hanging fruits that could be a big incentive to EV adoption when not being able to charge at home. Maybe they need more time....Sorry I spoke
Kiwi Greg
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Hateful things on many many levels in their current form. As an object/tool I’m of the opinion they’re a questionable prospect with respect to user interaction and benefit.
Then there’s the rabbit hole of the readiness of charging infrastructure, increased damage to roads their colossal weight and near instant torque causes. Ethical and environmental concerns about their initial production and end of life disposal. Not to mention the accompanying restriction of movement, financial penalties for ICE owners the global political class will be ushering in to further drive public behaviour.
Then there’s the rabbit hole of the readiness of charging infrastructure, increased damage to roads their colossal weight and near instant torque causes. Ethical and environmental concerns about their initial production and end of life disposal. Not to mention the accompanying restriction of movement, financial penalties for ICE owners the global political class will be ushering in to further drive public behaviour.
Oh yeah our multi storey parking garages have a 2 tonne limit but even so they were built around the time cars were half or less than that. Imagine one full of 1.5 tonne plus cars.
cuddles
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I thought EVs would be heavier due to the battery but the fully charged show looked at the new EVs with their much lighter boddies and even with batteries were no heavier especially as they looked at ICE SUVs. They compared many vehicle weights and very little difference was seen and many EVs were a bit lighter as the big engine and fuel tanks are no longer needed.
I didn't realise this but the weight issue seems to be a myth that has grown especially the car parks falling down.
I am still not keen on EV though.
I didn't realise this but the weight issue seems to be a myth that has grown especially the car parks falling down.
I am still not keen on EV though.
Bluemanc100
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Drove a BMW i3s for two years as a company car and loved it... I was dead set on a Tesla Model Y when the current Jaguar ePace goes but I've had a complete change of heart because of the woeful infrastucture issues and the depreciation on Tesla's which is up and down... I worked on the Tesla Motors project before retiring and installed most of the service centres in Europe so I was a fan, the biggest mistake I made was not buying shares in 2013 when I started to work with them....
The ePace is the 150 manual but returns a decent 50mpg on average but I fancy the GR as I'm 60 in November and if I can't have a bit of fun now I never will
The ePace is the 150 manual but returns a decent 50mpg on average but I fancy the GR as I'm 60 in November and if I can't have a bit of fun now I never will
Intresting, link? My feeling (from data being a weight nerd) is that BEV's are slightly heavier but nowhere as bad as claimed, indeed a different disease going on in the (car) world - general obesity. See point two previously posted https://www.gr-zoo.com/threads/electric-cars.511/post-66128
That obesity is in large part to (interior ineffective) size and the ongoing power race, normalised for size and power modern cars are quite often lighter then older cars despite a lot more (safety) equipment...
Michael Knight
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Michael Knight
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Hyundai Ioniq 5 N Review 2026 | Performance & Pricing
A complete review of the Hyundai Ioniq 5 N. Read our honest assessment of its practicality and driving performance, and compare its running costs and prices.
Looks promising. As having a GR on fleet would likely to choose still more practical family hauler with better cabin space. but if was only family car it would be a possible choice.
Glad that Car companies are trying something else. Funny that for me Toyota and Huyndai are more interesting than BMW at the moment.
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Looks like it will be by far the best sorted EV for driving enthusiasts so far. N delivers very complete cars. Remember a vid from germany they were sceptical about the fake noise at first on the prototype but they loved it.
Do keep in mind this is a big roomy car, a lot bigger then a classic hot hatch and much roomier then say a 1,7+ tonne M2. Should be compared to a RS6, that is 2,2 tonnes and similar space and performance. Pricing will be interesting to see...
Oh, if it has V2G I might have to get one...
Do keep in mind this is a big roomy car, a lot bigger then a classic hot hatch and much roomier then say a 1,7+ tonne M2. Should be compared to a RS6, that is 2,2 tonnes and similar space and performance. Pricing will be interesting to see...
Oh, if it has V2G I might have to get one...
Michael Knight
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nice burnout at FOS - looks promising (for tireshops). Also the soundtrack that resembles rallycar(?) sounds good - was really dull to watch any of those EV's run FOS track in between those glorious engines..
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For those not watching the above vids, it comes with three soundtracks, rally, high rev v12 something and some spacy sounding something, both inside and out. And flappy paddles that simulate shifting and even holds gears (if the features from the prototype remain)
Been watching everything Ioniq 5N out there, and I must say I am very happy for our EV future, if only it was for it not having touchscreen for everything, rather two customisable N buttons on the steering wheel. And also LSD, powerful regen etc., basically everything I wished for in our current EV. And I even feel the fake gear changes would work for me... So I feel good about the EV future and I wouldn't mind the 5N as our next family car next to the GRY, near enough my perfect garage, we'll see...
Michael Knight
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Test drove new Prius Plug-In today. Generic feeling positive. Steering is fast and heavy enough. Interior is ok looking, and visibility is good except A-pillars block some view in crossings. Cabin is silent and engine is working in the background when needed, not really noticeable during normal driving. Car was swift enough to my liking for normal driving. Not a sports car, but brisk enough.
Some test drivers have claimed that dashboard is not visible behind steering wheel but I had no issues whatsoever to see the dials.
Averaged 3.8ltr/100km in my mixed test drive, as battery was empty when I started.
Minus points to driver awarness system which seemed to note driver quite easy if doing anything else than watching the road forward. maybe good in terms of safety, but bit annoying as not so used to it.
btw Same driveline and battery will be available for new C-HR next year, and possibly also as AWD. that is maybe better suited as a family hauler as it can have tow hook and roof bars.
Some test drivers have claimed that dashboard is not visible behind steering wheel but I had no issues whatsoever to see the dials.
Averaged 3.8ltr/100km in my mixed test drive, as battery was empty when I started.
Minus points to driver awarness system which seemed to note driver quite easy if doing anything else than watching the road forward. maybe good in terms of safety, but bit annoying as not so used to it.
btw Same driveline and battery will be available for new C-HR next year, and possibly also as AWD. that is maybe better suited as a family hauler as it can have tow hook and roof bars.
Michael Knight
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Some depreciation data. Silly to loose 20k in value in 3 years.
makes to think twice when getting a new car. Applies of course to most new cars.
www.whatcar.com
www.whatcar.com
makes to think twice when getting a new car. Applies of course to most new cars.
The 10 fastest-depreciating electric cars in 2023
Strong demand for electric cars has pushed up used prices, but there are still some that lose a huge proportion of their value over three years. These are the models with the fastest depreciation
The 10 slowest-depreciating electric cars
Shopping for an electric car, but worried how much it will be worth when you come to sell it? Well, buy one of these and you can rest easy
Interesting that the Y comes ‘top’ of slowest depreciating…it’s not necessarily real world!
I’ve had a new Tesla every year for the past three because the residuals were ridiculously strong. I was offered my money back on my last 3 even though it had 8k miles on the clock, but this year it’s all change. I got offered £35k on my nine month old Y with 12k on the clock, cost £53k.
I’m not fussed because I decided long ago once residuals plummeted it’d be the last electric car I’ll buy and just run it into the ground. What’s concerning me is the insurance. Twingo and GRY have both stayed the same or come down, but the Tesla has jumped from £800 to £1350.
I’ve had a new Tesla every year for the past three because the residuals were ridiculously strong. I was offered my money back on my last 3 even though it had 8k miles on the clock, but this year it’s all change. I got offered £35k on my nine month old Y with 12k on the clock, cost £53k.
I’m not fussed because I decided long ago once residuals plummeted it’d be the last electric car I’ll buy and just run it into the ground. What’s concerning me is the insurance. Twingo and GRY have both stayed the same or come down, but the Tesla has jumped from £800 to £1350.
