GR Yaris (Gen 2) GR Yaris Mk2 (MY2024->)

I'm not planning on changing mine, since I've fixed most of the issues I had with my MK1 and the rest is stuff that can be done better using aftermarket parts.
My main gripes with my MK1 were the seating position as well as the obstructed front view due to the mirror.
Changing out the mirror and installing some nice Recaro bucket seats has made all the difference in the world.
I could even imagine myself not being satisfied with only a 2 cm drop in seat height, given that I've now gotten used to a much lower position, which I frankly enjoy more.
The only real difference that can't be overcome by some nice tuning parts are the changes to the chassis, which I personally don't believe to be elemental but could very well make a difference in handling qualities.
 
I’ve settled on sticking with mine. I’d quite like to drive another couple of cars in the near future when the final payment is due just to check (ie a GR86) but even then financially it makes sense to make the final payment and then sell it myself than give it back due to the low GFV. I still look at it and it makes me smile and I realise there’s a lot about the fact it was the OG and the big risk for Toyota when they launched it even if the newer one is more refined.
 
MK1. For me I don't see any reasons to switch to MK2. Seat height has never bothered me and I drive without a middle mirror :).


On the contrary, there are so many things I don't like about MK2. Cockpit, speedometer(Digital🤮), ISA, optics from the front, no Homolo... and I don't trust all this marketing blah blah anyway. I'm speculating on a MK3 with hybrid... If not, then not.
 
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bencollins4 said:
Seems a bit rash, given you’re (presumably) not guaranteed a car or have any idea of price?! 😂
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Maybe, but it can't be undone so just focus on the challenge of chasing a new one. Expecting it to be 40k ish and if it doesn't happen then so be it. 🤞
 
Greenthumb said:
MK1. For me I don't see any reasons to switch to MK2. Seat height has never bothered me and I drive without a middle mirror :).


On the contrary, there are so many things I don't like about it. Cockpit, speedometer, ISA, optics from the front, no Homolo... and I don't trust all this marketing blah blah anyway. I'm speculating on a MK3 with hybrid... If not, then not.
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For me there isn't much I want. A bit more power, not fussed with an auto, and whilst the cockpit has grown on me a little i took prefer the manual dials. Not sure the front end is an improvement but I do like the rear changes mostly.

I'm planning on keeping my MKI for a long time and when I eventually need to rebuild the engine I'll probably just source MKII engine parts.

Also there is that little three letter acronym that reared it's head.

I don't know how much it'll cost extra too. I fear with interest rates and difference in cost it'll be quite a lot extra, whereas I'm paid off for my MKI in October
 
cuddles said:
A few weeks now since the launch of the MK2 in the press and a lot of excitement with it. I now wonder when everyone has had time to think about it what would happen in this scenario:
Last day in August you could buy and drive away the last MK1 CP in your chosen colour and then mod it a little or
First day in September pay possibly an extra £5k and pick up and drive away a MK2 standard or much more with the extras.
I suspect the serious track drivers will go with the MK2 but possibly people like myself who use it for road fun drives would stick with the MK1.
Those with an immaculate MK1 would be facing possibly a £15k bill to swap and I still don't know if MK2 will be homologation as that makes a difference.
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I'm actually in this position. I've handed back my Mk1 allocation for an Mk2 😀
 
Tre said:
I'm actually in this position. I've handed back my Mk1 allocation for an Mk2 😀
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If I were in this position, I could see that. But having to sell the car to buy the Mk2 is a PITA, even though here in Japan I could still get what I paid for it.
 
sixtentouge said:
If I were in this position, I could see that. But having to sell the car to buy the Mk2 is a PITA, even though here in Japan I could still get what I paid for it.
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Would love to see enhusiasts/owners review between Mk1 and Mk2 in real life use. Nowadays everything seems to be quite biased towards some commercial entity, which is kind of sad development even though I understand that there might be some contractual marketing thing going on.
Michael Knight said:
300hp +100hp as hybrid boost could be fun - if it was similar as in rally1 with little added weight and utilizing kinetic energy. But as rally1 is dying (?) maybe makes no point.
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actually this concept is quite tempting. getting small supermini in 400hp/600Nm with better weight balance would be epic, even if it weighted +70kg more. Electricity could help the center diff power delivery especially to rear). Proper rally suspension and protection (and bucket seats!) from factory.

Anyone having MrMorizo's phone number?
 
Michael Knight said:
Would love to see enhusiasts/owners review between Mk1 and Mk2 in real life use. Nowadays everything seems to be quite biased towards some commercial entity, which is kind of sad development even though I understand that there might be some contractual marketing thing going on.

actually this concept is quite tempting. getting small supermini in 400hp/600Nm with better weight balance would be epic, even if it weighted +70kg more. Electricity could help the center diff power delivery especially to rear). Proper rally suspension and protection (and bucket seats!) from factory.

Anyone having MrMorizo's phone number?
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There was a concept* for the next gen RS Focus which didn't get past the counters of beans. Same front drive set up with 260kW ish from the 2.3 duratec and then about 75-100kW electric drive to the rear. Hybrid 48V system with no 12V starter or alternator and just the 48V system on the flywheel providing both. Dead in the water.

*engineering concept told to me by one of the engineers...
 
cuddles said:
A few weeks now since the launch of the MK2 in the press and a lot of excitement with it. I now wonder when everyone has had time to think about it what would happen in this scenario:
Last day in August you could buy and drive away the last MK1 CP in your chosen colour and then mod it a little or
First day in September pay possibly an extra £5k and pick up and drive away a MK2 standard or much more with the extras.
I suspect the serious track drivers will go with the MK2 but possibly people like myself who use it for road fun drives would stick with the MK1.
Those with an immaculate MK1 would be facing possibly a £15k bill to swap and I still don't know if MK2 will be homologation as that makes a difference.
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Keep MK I, without any hesitation
 
Florens said:
I'm not planning on changing mine, since I've fixed most of the issues I had with my MK1 and the rest is stuff that can be done better using aftermarket parts.
My main gripes with my MK1 were the seating position as well as the obstructed front view due to the mirror.
Changing out the mirror and installing some nice Recaro bucket seats has made all the difference in the world.
I could even imagine myself not being satisfied with only a 2 cm drop in seat height, given that I've now gotten used to a much lower position, which I frankly enjoy more.
The only real difference that can't be overcome by some nice tuning parts are the changes to the chassis, which I personally don't believe to be elemental but could very well make a difference in handling qualities.
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You could still achieve part of the stiffness of the "new" chassis by adding a roll cage, or half roll cage, which does add some weight, but you could save part of that additional weight by deleting rear seats (no choice anyway if you're using good bucket seats, no access to the rear except via the boot) etc.
Phil Rötheli demonstrated that very well with his.
 
micsub said:
You could still achieve part of the stiffness of the "new" chassis by adding a roll cage, or half roll cage, which does add some weight, but you could save part of that additional weight by deleting rear seats (no choice anyway if you're using good bucket seats, no access to the rear except via the boot) etc.
Phil Rötheli demonstrated that very well with his.
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I'd love to test with stiffer front ARB but install is bit too much work so not planning to change.
Wonder who princess can feel the difference in chassis between models, with rubber bushings and street tires.
 
micsub said:
You could still achieve part of the stiffness of the "new" chassis by adding a roll cage, or half roll cage, which does add some weight, but you could save part of that additional weight by deleting rear seats (no choice anyway if you're using good bucket seats, no access to the rear except via the boot) etc.
Phil Rötheli demonstrated that very well with his.
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I already have a front and rear strut brace which will at least help a bit in the spots where the forces are highest.
To genuinely gain structural rigidity from a cage you'd probably have to go for a full weld in cage.
I don't think that a bolted cage will do that much.
Given that our MK1s Chassis is already very rigid I'm not that fussed.
 
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