GR Yaris (Gen 2) GR Yaris Mk2 (MY2024->)

[johnybigarms]

One of the few realistic price posts on this. Inflation adjusted cost+ a few £k for the improvements. Nobody sells a facelift for the same price as the base model. So £40k-£45k is the realistic price point imo.

It wouldn’t sell at over £40k, Toyota sells the GR86 at £32k and it’s a 2.4 litre coupe, we all like the GRY but they have to be realistic, £500 to £1k premium over the last MK1 would be fair, the upgrades keep it fresh, it’s not transformational, but from Toyotas perspective, they want to reignite passion for the car and sell another huge batch, forget 300 coming to the U.K., that’s just a way to get you on a list of intention as you scrabble to get one.
The extra road fund tax for £40k list cars (£2k) over 5 years would kill the purchase for most, I know it would me 100%, Toyota are not daft.

 

[AlphaDelta]

It wouldn’t sell at over £40k, Toyota sells the GR86 at £32k and it’s a 2.4 litre coupe, we all like the GRY but they have to be realistic, £500 to £1k premium over the last MK1 would be fair, the upgrades keep it fresh, it’s not transformational, but from Toyotas perspective, they want to reignite passion for the car and sell another huge batch, forget 300 coming to the U.K., that’s just a way to get you on a list of intention as you scrabble to get one.
The extra road fund tax for £40k list cars (£2k) over 5 years would kill the purchase for most, I know it would me 100%, Toyota are not daft.

If they only play to sell 300 in the UK it absolutely will. This is not going to be sold in anywhere near the numbers the original GRY was. Similar to the pricing of the FL5 CTR which is too high for me personally, yet they’ve had no trouble shifting them.

 

[johnybigarms]

If they only play to sell 300 in the UK it absolutely will. This is not going to be sold in anywhere near the numbers the original GRY was. Similar to the pricing of the FL5 CTR which is too high for me personally, yet they’ve had no trouble shifting them.

They don’t update a car to sell 300, they have sold 5000 MK1 to the U.K. and could sell more, why spend millions on improvements to sell 300 cars? They will sell another 2000 minimum, it’s the first allocation of cars that everyone will be chasing, but the rest will get one down the road, I’m sure on that

 

[Ecsrobin]

I suspect the 300 mentioned by a magazine and then repeated by some dealers is this years allocation. Same happened for the 2020 cars.

 

[Onehp]

I suspect the 300 mentioned by a magazine and then repeated by some dealers is this years allocation. Same happened for the 2020 cars.

Could be, and for what 4-5 delivery months? That's at least 600 maybe even 1000 units mk2 /yr?

 

[Sam]

I suspect the 300 mentioned by a magazine and then repeated by some dealers is this years allocation. Same happened for the 2020 cars.

Agree. Given they seemed to find more GR86 to sell I can't imagine 300 is the total planned production for the life of the model.

I guess we'll just have to wait and see what happens in March.

 

[Jonyboy]

initially i feel there will be a far bigger rush to buy the second version than was for the first.

 

[Sam]

On pricing, I'd be surprised if it exceeds £40k to avoid the premium car tax.

It may be possible to option them beyond £40k, my guess is whilst the "Circuit Pack" will be the base model, we will get option packages to choose from. Perhaps a comfort pack(heated bits) and a tech pack(Nav, parking sensors, blind spot monitor etc).

Ofc I'm just spitballing here, could be that they are all one spec and that's that. Here's hoping that amongst the feedback they have actioned is an intent to spec up the UK cars.

I promise I won't set up another petition, Toyota PR didn't seem to like that when I did it in 2020

 

[Duke]

I'd be surprised if TGB didn't just look at the mk1 base/convenience/circuit split and decide to go with one model, plus the automatic of course.

 

[Deleted member 179]

I'd be surprised if TGB didn't just look at the mk1 base/convenience/circuit split and decide to go with one model, plus the automatic of course.

There are definitely more options available this time though as I've heard it mentioned that you can get red belts for example.

I'd imagine they'll go 'Circuit' with an actual options list this time, rather than the 3 non overlapping specs.

 

[Gyp]

On pricing, I'd be surprised if it exceeds £40k to avoid the premium car tax.

It may be possible to option them beyond £40k, my guess is whilst the "Circuit Pack" will be the base model, we will get option packages to choose from. Perhaps a comfort pack(heated bits) and a tech pack(Nav, parking sensors, blind spot monitor etc).

It would be a shame if, to get the same convenience pack benefits, it pushes the car above £40k :-(

 

[Deleted member 179]

It would be a shame if, to get the same convenience pack benefits, it pushes the car above £40k :-(

The higher the price the fewer people want one...and the more chance I'll be able to get one (if I can afford whatever number they think up)

 

[Ecsrobin]

There is a “cooling pack” offered. But I suspect it will be a circuit pack with various convenience bits added. Obviously auto is an option and brings with it some additional kit.

 

[Darren]

I'll place an order.

But 20 bhp? Should be 300. Think the Mk1 will be as quick (quicker?) over the Welsh hills if they have flattened the suspension. But they know what they are doing better than I do. Majority of the upgrades seem to cater to track driving, which there are better cars tbh.

Heated seats, HUD, 2 USB's, JBL Sound? Have to wait an see what the UK spec is.

Absolutely not interested in an auto and will need to drive it now they have "fixed" (broken) the seating position, which is perfect in the MK1 for the lanes.

If it's north of 40k though...

 

[gr-fun]

Once the boffins at TGB have sorted out the spec, I suspect that will be it apart from colour and gearbox.

Can't see them offering additional options, they'll keep it simple in my opinion.

Would be great to spec Cooling Pack, Red seatbelts etc but I can't see it happening - red seatbelts may well be standard for UK cars.

 

[Deleted member 179]

I'm really not looking forward to the 'online only' 'unique' allocation process
It feels like a frustrating disappointment waiting to happen

I'm prepared for the disappointment, but I don't want the frustration

 

[Ecsrobin]

I'm really not looking forward to the 'online only' 'unique' allocation process
It feels like a frustrating disappointment waiting to happen

I'm prepared for the disappointment, but I don't want the frustration

I suspect they will go for ballot. Then you’ll see people like Litchfield with one of each as we all scratch our heads how no one on the forum got a slot.

 

[AlphaDelta]

They don’t update a car to sell 300, they have sold 5000 MK1 to the U.K. and could sell more, why spend millions on improvements to sell 300 cars? They will sell another 2000 minimum, it’s the first allocation of cars that everyone will be chasing, but the rest will get one down the road, I’m sure on that

You could say the same about the CTR. Also 300 is just the UK allocation. Many other factors like the emissions regs, inflation and interest rates also contribute. A facelift version of a car, which has near universal praise, being sold at less than the inflation adjusted price with more upgrades and a heavily subsidised finance interest rate just seems far fetched. If it is I’ll be on that website to place an order in March!

 

[Carpe_Diem]

Been reading comments here regarding potential price markup over the mk1. I was a GR86 owner and they increased the price by £2500 when they allocated a second batch to the U.K., with the same spec. So I would imagine the mk2 GRY would see a larger increase than this, therefore starting at least £38k. The auto was a £2500 option from memory too.

I also went through the online ordering process for the GR86. It was very tense and if I was to go through it again I would have done it differently. Don’t add in p/x details and chose pay in full rather than do a finance application. You can do all that after with TGB and saves so much time.

Plus the ordering system opened early, about a week or so from memory and 30 rogue orders were placed. So worth keeping an eye on the link in the weeks before launch.

I’ve swapped the GR86 for a GRY and I love it. The mk2 isn’t enough of an upgrade for me to make the change, I’m still having too much fun.

 

[Rivage]

People shedding tears that they have done an update is a bit sad imo. Don’t think anyone had any personal promises or guarantees. It’s not personal them developing the car further it’s a business. They could make loads more and it will still be exclusive as I imagine plenty owners have them as 2nd or 3rd cars.

I understand what you mean, but having ordered a GR Yaris 2 years ago and still waiting for the actual delivery (the car arrived last week at the dealer), it's pretty darn frustrating to finally receive a new car that is already 'an old model' before I even get the chance to start driving with it...