paulR
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According to the gov website it is based on list price, is that the same as OTR? It does look quite good in black but as you say, a bugger to keep clean.
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Is it just me, or is the reported performance of the new Prelude a little underwhelming? I know that is massively hypocritical, given I'm someone who's owned both GT and GR86 precisely because "it's not about performance figures", but I can't help feeling that even so, it seems a bit mundane for a sports coupé. Or am I just expecting too much?
Also, the powertrain sounds very interesting from a technical perspective (electric motors powered by a petrol engine, pretty much?) but I'm not sure it will translate well to a fun driver's car.
Also, the powertrain sounds very interesting from a technical perspective (electric motors powered by a petrol engine, pretty much?) but I'm not sure it will translate well to a fun driver's car.
I mentioned it on the other thread but in my eyes the Prelude was never a proper sports car, more an upmarket coupe. It never got a proper hot version (Type S at most) and never had a racing heritage like the Civic or Integra.
The last gen sold in a 2.2 and 2.0, most were 2.0 which had 130bhp. So it still kind of falls in line with it's MO.
The last gen sold in a 2.2 and 2.0, most were 2.0 which had 130bhp. So it still kind of falls in line with it's MO.
An SHEV, gas engine is a mere electricity producer for an electric motor that solely powers the front wheels. The engine and electric motor are configured to fake shifting together, with the motor singing up and down the revs, but the electric motor is just running one gear driving the front wheels emulating the torque delivery of a combustion engine. It's a Ioniq 5 N + "geared" CVT + hybrid mashup....
PS: the engine can power the front wheels directly 1:1 with a lockup clutch without gears for motorway driving.
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So good to hear about people using old cars as their second vehicle. Mine is a 56 plate Mark 2 Yaris and it's usually used for journeys less than 30mls. Toyota really knew how to produce a robust car then - there's no rust on the bodywork (were they galvanized?) and in contrast to the 86, the paint is hard and resilient. The underneath is fine too, after 120k miles. However, it is so good to get into the 86 and appreciate the difference in its performance all over again.
That's fair enough. I never really knew much about them in period.
@Silver Fox please proceed to buy one so that we may finally have someone else to mock about how slowly they get away from the lights, while insisting your car cannot possibly be any good without a turbocharger. [/Pistonheads]
chopper602
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I did a lot of my early driving in a gen 2 Prelude owned by my mother. Excellent, quick car, especially for a 17 year old (insurance not such an issue 40 years ago) . Dad liked Hondas for a while (Accord, Quintet, Prelude, Civic GT) before going through estates to get the dogs in and tow a caravan.
Martin_uk
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I believe the £40k plus list figure for extra RFL for 5 years for Expensive/Luxury cars, is based on P11D figure which is list exc 1st 12m RFL and First reg fee. It started in 2017 and figure not changed. The crazy thing is EV's were excluded until April this year and EV's reg after then penalised.
Alistair31
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You might be in business now, with Ms Reeves lifting the threshold to £50k…
paulR
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Isn’t that just on EVs though?
Alistair31
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Yes actually I think you are right. Oh well, more reason for us all to stick with our GR’s.
Bathroom_Security
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I commuted in my 86 recently for a project, 120 mile round trip each day. Made me remember how frustrating I found driving a sports car in commuter traffic. Literally ZERO opportunity to open it up and explot the car.
I had this with my old E92 M3, absolute frustration at never being able to stretch its legs because there was always some braindead NPC in the way.
In comparison, I also commuted to the same project in my VW T6, which I found comfortable and relaxing, and didnt arrive at work extremely angry wanting to murder people (joke, of course I would never do this mr government agent).
Id probably sell up and buy something awful to commute in if finances didnt allow me to keep the 86.
I had this with my old E92 M3, absolute frustration at never being able to stretch its legs because there was always some braindead NPC in the way.
In comparison, I also commuted to the same project in my VW T6, which I found comfortable and relaxing, and didnt arrive at work extremely angry wanting to murder people (joke, of course I would never do this mr government agent).
Id probably sell up and buy something awful to commute in if finances didnt allow me to keep the 86.
KobayashiMaru86
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I get annoyed by NPC's even commuting in my Swift. Even this morning I've gone in early for something I needed to do and should've made fantastic time and it's full of vans and NPC's in Cupra's who are on day rate taking all the time in the world. Oblivious to everyone else.
Silver Fox
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I have been in two minds whether to keep or sell, but my recent experience of trying to get the service and MOT sorted has swung it for me.
The car will be going in the new year, I think.
The car will be going in the new year, I think.
KobayashiMaru86
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I'll be buying mine outright in January but whether I keep using them is another story. My issue is there's no indy locally who will look after it to my standard. My brother came to a local Subaru specialist for his 86 and he's just a wide boy and useless. He's had issues with his manifold and exhaust, his original tuner doesn't want to know so given his is 12yrs+ he'll revert to stock at quite a cost as all his stock bits are now scrap. I'd probably book a day or two and go to Fensport for it and make a few days holiday out of it.
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Sad to hear it. Dealers from my experience are useless. They just hide behind a veil of perceived quality by association and hair products.
It's a shame they've tarnished your owning experience to the point of wanting to sell. That said, I don't blame you for wanting to switch cars with the amount of miles that you're doing.
It's a shame they've tarnished your owning experience to the point of wanting to sell. That said, I don't blame you for wanting to switch cars with the amount of miles that you're doing.
OPC100
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It is a shame that you are not getting a great service from what I assume is your local Toyota garage. Did you get it sorted in the end? I had mine MOT'd today and was a little bit worried about a chipped windscreen that had been repaired, but was mentioned at my last service. It passed and just had an advisory for the chip, so happy enough. I use SSC in Yeovil and I've been happy with them so far. They are further away than the Toyota garages in Salisbury or Bournemouth for me, but I did get messed about when the franchise changed from Hendy to Snows, so I haven't been back to either of them since.
Silver Fox
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All sorted in the end thanks @OPC100 . Took a good day and a half including travel time for what should have been a two hour while you wait appointment. Got my MOT certificate but no other paperwork (service docs, health check, itemised invoice, warranty extension etc ) so will be chasing that up.
Glad you had good, efficient service - not always to be expected nowadays it seems!
Glad you had good, efficient service - not always to be expected nowadays it seems!
OPC100
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That's a pain, but at least you got the MOT sorted in time. What are your current thoughts on selling, or will you be giving it some more thought over the break and see how good a deal you can get on a Prelude. 
Silver Fox
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Probably going to ponder over the break, but likely to switch to a more motorway-friendly plodder I think (Prelude or otherwise!).That's a pain, but at least you got the MOT sorted in time. What are your current thoughts on selling, or will you be giving it some more thought over the break and see how good a deal you can get on a Prelude.
Then I'll probably have a superb early morning Spring drive and vow never to sell (and find a better servicing and MOT provider...)
