GR86 White GR86 from Scotland

drz252

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It can't be much fun to be a sheep. Especially at this time of year.

This afternoon - having collected and brought home the GR86 in the morning, and skipped any kind of lunch - I went for a walk out of the front door at home, through the woods down to the village, and up to the foothills of the Pentlands.

The sun was already diving towards the horizon, and the shaded grass was still covered from last night's frost. The few blackberries not picked by local babushkas (and me) in those warm weeks of autumn had withered; only a few leaves on trees were yet to fall. And everywhere that cold, penetrating dampness that will be with us now until April. Rugby weather, at least until I took up curling in my final years of school (as you were allowed to dress properly for the cold on an ice rink, rather than forced to play outside in only shorts and boots on the stone-hard ground of February).

The animals should really be inside by now. Perhaps it's the cost that's keeping them out in the cold. The poor sheep - now looking like white lions, with their woolly manes - spend the few daylight hours munching through frozen grass. Imagine spending all of your days eating only icy salad leaves.

Yan, chan, tether, mether, pip...

Not fun.

=

After making payment, receiving the three-day insurance documents and confirming everything with my local dealership, I headed out late morning to collect my new GR86.

Upon arrival, the car was ready in the handover bay. The marvellous salesman explained that they had not put the customary sheet over the car for the "big reveal", to avoid any chance of dust or grit scratching the paintwork when whisked off. They really were very considerate and attentive, today and throughout the rather long journey to taking ownership.

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I had previously expected to take the car directly to a detailing operation to correct and protect the paintwork with a full ceramic coating. However - due to the time of year, and not wanting to book the detailing treatment until I knew the car was at the dealership - this might not happen for a couple of weeks, so I asked the dealership to proceed "carefully" with their usual vehicle preparation. The detailer had already treated a number of their GR Yarises, and expressed no reason for concern. Indeed, none was warranted - the car looked clean and free of any issues, inside and out. Slight trace lines of residue from the protection stickers were visible on the front wings, and around the protective sticker on the boot sill is easily dirtied, but the salesman explained that they had decided against any more vigorous cleaning to prevent damage before a full detailing. This was perfectly reasonable.

A few brief chats with passing salespeople later - and with my bamboo key box and new fluffy Issho companion - I was ready to head out for the maiden voyage. Though I was quite young at the time, I imagine that this is how the world appeared while being born:

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The car was... exactly as you remember it from your test drive. I was surprised again at how easily the gearbox and brakes engage, but the car had been sitting in a toasty showroom for a while. None of the warm-up issues that I have slowly learned to overcome with my older Porsche.

As I have seen the question asked, you do indeed receive fitted "GR86" floor carpets:

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And, for the record, I believe I have solved the mystery of the "17.7 mpg" which caused such consternation in an earlier post.

Here is my dash display after driving home:

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From leaving the showroom, the "AVG mpg" was climbing from literally zero. I was typically getting about 30-32mpg on my drive home, and the average crept up with every passing mile. (The car had 10 miles on the odometer upon collection, by the way.)

Since I was also the first into the silver demonstrator way back in... November, I suspect that the car takes a while to establish an average fuel consumption. I am assuming that driving as if there is an egg under the throttle pedal will give you a fuel economy in the early-30s. I also suspect that - after your first 1,000 miles running in, and when spring sunshine returns - that number may drop!

Until then, I look forward to many happy journeys with my new friend:

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Whether after the last few years of lockdowns and separations from friends and family, or recent economic turmoil, or bafflement at the notion of "European conditions", I am sure each of us has had cause to question our commitment to these cars, and to surrender to the temptation to cancel our orders. I, for one, am glad to have kept faith with Zoo Company!

Thank you all for sharing your thoughts and experiences over these past eight months. Though we are - for now - strangers to one another, this forum has been enormously helpful to me, from placing an order to tracking the boat to puzzling over the fate of our cars after they entered the Bermuda Triangle Derby compound. I am also grateful to the wonderful staff at Toyota Buy Online, who have been courteous and supportive throughout the process leading to today. So, thank you.

Please remember that the only car that matters is yours. Please take a test drive, and consider whether you can first provide for all the more important things in life. It doesn't matter what some child writing for a magazine, or your mates at work, or friendly folks on online forums think. And nobody will remember whether they got theirs first, or tenth, or four-hundredth. You will get your car first.

I don't care whether they make 400 or 400,000 for the UK market. "This is my GR86, there are many like it, but this one is mine...".

And so, if you'll please excuse me, I have a thousand miles to cover before the snows arrive.

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Beautifully written as always @drz252 ; I hope you enjoy your wonderful car in that most delightful part of the world you reside.

May the hardy Scottish sheep you are neighbour to provide their wares for only the finest tailoring, albeit tailoring unable to be adequately hung inside the objects of our affections.
 
Well, it seems that the snow won...

Thank you ever so much, @AndyRC, for bestowing the honorary dog tags! Our days in Zoo Company will never be forgotten. My order of April 9 was only confirmed by ToyBO on April 20 (just before the order system went live for GenPop), so I think it's fair to say that even the elite GRogue Special Forces were in limbo until the same morning as everyone else.

Meanwhile, I am very happy with the Pearlescent White. I shall take better pictures when the opportunity presents itself (probably in May or June), but I thought a couple of pictures after a light dusting of snow might be worth sharing.

Up close, there is a real 'glitter' to the paint - hints of yellows and greys. Of course, being colourblind, the damn thing could be purple for all I know.

But even to my eyes, there is a subtle warmth to K1X (a little like Honda's Championship White), which I hope you can see against the contrasting snow.

It is a much more complex and interesting colour than the 'Fridge White' which comes across in press images.


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Nice.

(Does anyone know - is the GR86 white the same as the GT86 pearlescent white from around 2012? That's what I had on my GT86. Apologies if this has been confirmed or denied elsewhere on here.)
 
Well, it seems that the snow won...

Thank you ever so much, @AndyRC, for bestowing the honorary dog tags! Our days in Zoo Company will never be forgotten. My order of April 9 was only confirmed by ToyBO on April 20 (just before the order system went live for GenPop), so I think it's fair to say that even the elite GRogue Special Forces were in limbo until the same morning as everyone else.

Meanwhile, I am very happy with the Pearlescent White. I shall take better pictures when the opportunity presents itself (probably in May or June), but I thought a couple of pictures after a light dusting of snow might be worth sharing.

Up close, there is a real 'glitter' to the paint - hints of yellows and greys. Of course, being colourblind, the damn thing could be purple for all I know.

But even to my eyes, there is a subtle warmth to K1X (a little like Honda's Championship White), which I hope you can see against the contrasting snow.

It is a much more complex and interesting colour than the 'Fridge White' which comes across in press images.


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@drz252 , thanks for the info , I’ll get you a new set of dog tags made ASAP 👍 Nice photos of the car 😎 maybe one for the Forum banner 🤔
 
Nice.

(Does anyone know - is the GR86 white the same as the GT86 pearlescent white from around 2012? That's what I had on my GT86. Apologies if this has been confirmed or denied elsewhere on here.)
I believe it is all the same K1X paint code. It was seeing one of those that made me spec it on the GR86 and I bought the Yaris in the same. :cool:
 
I believe it is all the same K1X paint code. It was seeing one of those that made me spec it on the GR86 and I bought the Yaris in the same. :cool:
Thanks @doogle83 . White was my second choice; I wanted a different colour to my GT86 but these (and other GR86 pics) do look great...
 
Congratulations @drz252 on receiving your new car. It looks amazing.

Now adhere to the running in procedure!

Thank ye kindly, @GR86Enthusiast! Though I fear that I may disappoint you with progress on "running in" - I am certainly managing to keep things below 4,000rpm, though not for that reason!

A brief update this evening, for the benefit of those still waiting for their cars ... Consider yourselves fortunate!

If God did manage to get an order through the Toyota website on that glorious April morning, it must have been after 10:30am, as He seems determined to punish those GRogues who have received their cars before Him.

It has snowed and snowed and snowed every day since collection, which rather tempers one's enthusiasm to sally forth in the new steed.

One's enthusiasm was further tempered at a local car park this morning (in another vehicle, mercifully, better suited to hibernal errands), where feral youths were packing snowballs with stone chippings and broken glass, and hurling them at passing cars and pensioners collecting their prescriptions from the local pharmacy.

If you are even slightly impatient for the arrival of your car, imagine that it has already arrived but wakes each morning under a fresh blanket of ice:

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I hope that this helps to calm any thoughts of frustration, or jealousy. May they lift from your soul and vanish into the ether, leaving only a quiet satisfaction that you are not paying to tax and insure a car useless to you at this time of the year!

To ease the task of clearing snow on the many winter mornings that lie ahead, I decided to tuck the GR86 into a corner ...

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... for which the absent parking sensors would certainly have proven useful! The reversing camera is quite hopeless - on the screen, I appeared to be metres from the wall. Alas, not so. Mercifully, spatial awareness averted a tragedy.

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More happily, I can report that the boot lid (even without Mr. Ducktail) does an admirable job of ensuring that the reversing camera is not obscured by snow.

Meanwhile, poor little Issho must be wondering what Kafka-esque twist of fate has caused his detention in such an icy prison. Don't worry, little friend, there will be adventures soon!

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To end on a cheerier note, I managed to avoid the hail of shrapnel-laden snowballs long enough to photograph a jolly upturned road cone which seemed to have entered into the Christmas spirit!

Only 119 sleeps 'til Easter ...

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Good lord that post was an emotional rollercoaster.

I was expecting some sort of weather or youth induced damage to the GR86 or even your good self as I read through that.

I've felt less tension watching ITV (very specifically ITV) "thrillers" and crime "dramas".

I'm glad that everyone and everything is safe and well.

If I wasn't typing this from my bed to avoid venturing out into the cold for my morning constitutional, I'd need a lie down.

Currahee, fellow Zoo Company representative!
 
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I feel your frustration @drz252

If the weather forecasters are correct you only have a few more days of yearning to endure.

Pleased you managed to manoeuvre your pride and joy without incident.

Beautifully written post by the way!
 
A year to the day since I placed my order and unwittingly joined the GRogues of Zoo Company, I finally summon the courage to write this last update and lay this thread to rest.

Trawling back through the messages, I remember the puzzled excitement with which I received my "early bird" order confirmation...

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... and the following fortnight of trying to establish whether or not my order would actually stand.

At 9am on the morning of 20 April, I received confirmation that my order would be honoured! And so began eight months of waiting, wondering, rather a lot of telephone calls... and eventually taking delivery on December 7, as detailed above.

After driving the sixteen miles home, a lot of snow and nine days later, the car was gone - sold back to the dealership.

Why?

I'm not going to complain about the car, or the dealership, or Toyota. I'm not going to sour the experience for those of you who have now received your cars, or those of you still waiting - I sincerely hope you all enjoy your GR86s, and I look forward to reading your adventures. Sadly, like some others on here, the car - or, more specifically, the ownership experience - simply was not for me.

Taking delivery in early December was not ideal. It snowed, and snowed, and snowed. There is a gentle incline along the length of my driveway up to the road, and the GR86 - on stock tyres - was not equal to the challenge. A front-engined, rear-driven lightweight sporty coupé is a joyous thing in August - less so in the depths of a Scottish winter. I was forced to clear the snow behind the car, grit the freshly-cleared drive, reverse back into the grit and then clear a path all the way to the road. A set of Michelin CrossClimates might have helped, but I didn't think it fair to ask the mobile tyre-fitting wallah to plough his way to mine to find out.

There were plenty of minor irritations - cabin quality, boot size, gearstick rattling around like a sex toy on a cold start - but these could be tolerated. The absence of parking sensors not so much. Having the good fortune of being among the first to take delivery, I contacted anyone who would pick up a ringing telephone... and none had a scooby as to why they were missing, or what could be done. I am delighted many of you have now been given the choice of retro-fitting sensors to your cars; no such option was presented to me in December.

As the days passed after collection - the GR86 entombed under snow - I began to re-evaluate this little car, for which I had waited so very, very long. Verily, had mine sunny pleasure-dome become a cave of ice!

I loved - and still love - the car itself. And I was prepared to accept its many shortcomings, as I believed - and still believe - that it has an endearing character, for which there is no obvious substitute. But in those dark, frosty days of staring out at the car - "as idle as a painted ship, upon a painted ocean" - I reflected on the process of acquistion, and the post-handover customer service, the absurd insurance premium, and the missing equipment... and decided to return the car. The catch wasn't better than the chase.

I made some initial enquiries into how one returns a car bought online, and also spoke with some friendly local dealers to gauge interest in the car and sniff out the market. Some offered to sell over list on a commission basis; others reluctantly offered list price, knowing that I could return the car for a full refund. In the end, the car was sold back to the dealership - I was dealing with a long-term acquaintance, who offered a fair price over the telephone, freely admitting that he was taking a punt on the car with no idea of how the market would respond. He and his driver arrived the following day, the money was paid into my account within thirty seconds and off they went. No 'old aaht yer 'and. Like it had all been a dream.

I still have the die-cast model from Japan, and the magazines, and I'm not sure how to explain any of this to little Issho.

=

So what should you do, if you are having doubts?

Firstly, take delivery. You will have fourteen days (and a limited mileage) in which to decide whether or not the car is for you.

Secondly, do not buy to sell. You might make a few quid, but you are putting £31k on the table for a gain of... a couple of grand? Mileage and condition will be paramount if you are going for a private sale. Personally, I could not hand my keys to anyone else for a test drive - I will let a dealership earn their profit by taking that risk for me.

Finally, remember that there are no substitutes at £31k, or £34k if your sale goes well. An MX-5 is too small. An Mini JCW / i30N / Golf GTI / 128ti / S3 will be more practical, but you did not buy a GR86 because you need practical. A 718 Cayman is even less practical - and my dealer can get me a factory order for August - but that just went up £5k, so you're knocking on the door of £60k for a two-litre with options. You could get a run-out TT, if that appeals to you more than it appeals to me.

Perhaps the most realistic alternative is the BMW 2-Series. I have driven all three petrol engines, and the 220i is fine (if a little gutless), but you don't want it. The 230i is a genuine alternative to the GR86, at about £10k more (after discount). And the M240i is a different beast altogether, and not really playing in the same league (or even the same sport) as the GR86. For me, the 2-Series answers all the questions raised by the GR86 - ride, cabin quality, boot size... - and the only real drawback is the wide-screen infotainment display. If you can accept the infotainment display (or, heaven forfend, actually like it), then the BMW 2-Series is probably your best alternative.

=

It has been fun, reading your stories over these past four months - your collection woes, your enjoyable drives, and some of your more adventurous modifications. I remain grateful for your support and your good humour throughout!

Perhaps we'll meet one day. If so, I'll be the idiot that had a car like yours for nine days...

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Either way, I wish you well with your GR86. Don't forget to order your dog tags.

Thank you for your continual patience, and goodbye.
 
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But in those dark, frosty days of staring out at the car - "as idle as a painted ship, upon a painted ocean" - I reflected on the process of acquisition, and the post-handover customer service, the absurd insurance premium, and the missing equipment... and decided to return the car. The catch wasn't better than the chase.
"He went like one that hath been stunned,
And is of sense forlorn:
A sadder and a wiser man,
He rose the morrow morn."

Apposite, I think.

I'm sorry that the GR86 wasn't for you, and I wish you all the very best in your future motoring endeavours.
 
A year to the day since I placed my order and unwittingly joined the GRogues of Zoo Company, I finally summon the courage to write this last update and lay this thread to rest.

Trawling back through the messages, I remember the puzzled excitement with which I received my "early bird" order confirmation...

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... and the following fortnight of trying to establish whether or not my order would actually stand.

At 9am on the morning of 20 April, I received confirmation that my order would be honoured! And so began eight months of waiting, wondering, rather a lot of telephone calls... and eventually taking delivery on December 7, as detailed above.

After driving the sixteen miles home, a lot of snow and nine days later, the car was gone - sold back to the dealership.

Why?

I'm not going to complain about the car, or the dealership, or Toyota. I'm not going to sour the experience for those of you who have now received your cars, or those of you still waiting - I sincerely hope you all enjoy your GR86s, and I look forward to reading your adventures. Sadly, like some others on here, the car - or, more specifically, the ownership experience - simply was not for me.

Taking delivery in early December was not ideal. It snowed, and snowed, and snowed. There is a gentle incline along the length of my driveway up to the road, and the GR86 - on stock tyres - was not equal to the challenge. A front-engined, rear-driven lightweight sporty coupé is a joyous thing in August - less so in the depths of a Scottish winter. I was forced to clear the snow behind the car, grit the freshly-cleared drive, reverse back into the grit and then clear a path all the way to the road. A set of Michelin CrossClimates might have helped, but I didn't think it fair to ask the mobile tyre-fitting wallah to plough his way to mine to find out.

There were plenty of minor irritations - cabin quality, boot size, gearstick rattling around like a sex toy on a cold start - but these could be tolerated. The absence of parking sensors not so much. Having the good fortune of being among the first to take delivery, I contacted anyone who would pick up a ringing telephone... and none had a scooby as to why they were missing, or what could be done. I am delighted many of you have now been given the choice of retro-fitting sensors to your cars; no such option was presented to me in December.

As the days passed after collection - the GR86 entombed under snow - I began to re-evaluate this little car, for which I had waited so very, very long. Verily, had mine sunny pleasure-dome become a cave of ice!

I loved - and still love - the car itself. And I was prepared to accept its many shortcomings, as I believed - and still believe - that it has an endearing character, for which there is no obvious substitute. But in those dark, frosty days of staring out at the car - "as idle as a painted ship, upon a painted ocean" - I reflected on the process of acquistion, and the post-handover customer service, the absurd insurance premium, and the missing equipment... and decided to return the car. The catch wasn't better than the chase.

I made some initial enquiries into how one returns a car bought online, and also spoke with some friendly local dealers to gauge interest in the car and sniff out the market. Some offered to sell over list on a commission basis; others reluctantly offered list price, knowing that I could return the car for a full refund. In the end, the car was sold back to the dealership - I was dealing with a long-term acquaintance, who offered a fair price over the telephone, freely admitting that he was taking a punt on the car with no idea of how the market would respond. He and his driver arrived the following day, the money was paid into my account within thirty seconds and off they went. No 'old aaht yer 'and. Like it had all been a dream.

I still have the die-cast model from Japan, and the magazines, and I'm not sure how to explain any of this to little Issho.

=

So what should you do, if you are having doubts?

Firstly, take delivery. You will have fourteen days (and a limited mileage) in which to decide whether or not the car is for you.

Secondly, do not buy to sell. You might make a few quid, but you are putting £31k on the table for a gain of... a couple of grand? Mileage and condition will be paramount if you are going for a private sale. Personally, I could not hand my keys to anyone else for a test drive - I will let a dealership earn their profit by taking that risk for me.

Finally, remember that there are no substitutes at £31k, or £35k if your sale goes well. An MX-5 is too small. An Mini JCW / i30N / Golf GTI / 128ti / S3 will be more practical, but you did not buy a GR86 because you need practical. A 718 Cayman is even less practical - and my dealer can get me a factory order for August - but that just went up £5k, so you're knocking on the door of £60k for a two-litre with options. You could get a run-out TT, if that appeals to you more than it appeals to me.

Perhaps the most realistic alternative is the BMW 2-Series. I have driven all three petrol engines, and the 220i is fine (if a little gutless), but you don't want it. The 230i is a genuine alternative to the GR86, at about £10k more (after discount). And the M240i is a different beast altogether, and not really playing in the same league (or even the same sport) as the GR86. For me, the 2-Series answers all the questions raised by the GR86 - ride, cabin quality, boot size... - and the only real drawback is the wide-screen infotainment display. If you can accept the infotainment display (or, heaven forfend, actually like it), then the BMW 2-Series is probably your best alternative.

=

It has been fun, reading your stories over these past four months - your collection woes, your enjoyable drives, and some of your more adventurous modifications. I remain grateful for your support and your good humour throughout!

Perhaps we'll meet one day. If so, I'll be the idiot that had a car like yours for nine days...

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Either way, I wish you well with your GR86. Don't forget to order your dog tags.

Thank you for your continual patience, and goodbye.

Again, beautifully written post!

I'm sorry the GR86 wasn't the car for you and I can relate to the points you raised that created disappointment.

I hope you find a car you can live with and enjoy.
 
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Wow, I wasn't expecting that. I completely missed this thread, so started reading from the beginning and expected to read about some epic Highlands adventure now the weather has improved. Sorry the car wasn't for you and all the best in what ever replaces it. 👋
 
Nice read sir, and I hear where you’re coming from. The right car is such a weird mix of practical concerns and emotional response, but I guess for us similarly afflicted types there’s got to be the unmistakable gut feeling or its just not happening… Hope you find a cool alternative✌️

(also I’ve no experience of the 2-series BMW or MX5 but have a Cayman - wouldn’t that lot have the same shortcomings as the 86 in the snow?)
 
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