GR86 UK GR86 numbers

this poison said:
Just so glad to get one to be honest.

Going to keep it, and no respect for anyone who bought to prof
this poison said:
Just so glad to get one to be honest.

Going to keep it, and no respect for anyone who bought to profit.
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This car is for driving, not making a few notes out of it. I have yet to see another in SW Scotland but I know the smile on my face is as good as it was with the best Porsche had to offer, well at least when I could afford them!
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If you want rarity at a bargain price, get yourself a Besasie Roadster! Only 1 in the UK and a mere 14 in the world, yours for the price of a second hand Audi A5, though hardly as practical! It's like something from 'The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen' 🤠

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Triggaaar said:
I know you won't be alone in feeling that, but personally I don't mind at all. I bought the car because I think it's a great fun car at a fair price, not because I was hoping for some rare collectors item.

If we end up with 1,250 - 1,500, that's still not exactly common. What other cars are registered in similar numbers? (serious question, anyone know)
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It never bothered me initially as I've still bought to keep but then I grew to like the idea of a rare car, after Toyota pushing it so heavily, only to lie and bring loads more in. But we all know they lie a lot, just look at the alarm and sensors fiasco. Parts availability aren't an issue as it shares a lot with the GT and the oil filter is a bog standard Subaru one used on a few cars. As for low numbers, the special edition Fabia vRS in race blue was set at 1000 and they all got numbered. The only saving grace is first batch was cheaper. Knowing Toyota they'll release a special edition right at the end with more bits which will affect the value of the others.
 
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What I'm trying to get at is all those were offered as a special edition at the end of the run. If everyone paid up for the 1000, then they decided to do another 2000, the owners would be annoyed. The idea of this being rare and special was pushed hard, even if in reality I was buying anyway as there was nothing else I wanted. But was a nice thought that it was rare and was to be savoured. I still enjoy the car but Toyota don't half try hard to sour the experience with all that's gone on, even months later.
 
KobayashiMaru86 said:
What I'm trying to get at is all those were offered as a special edition at the end of the run. If everyone paid up for the 1000, then they decided to do another 2000, the owners would be annoyed. The idea of this being rare and special was pushed hard, even if in reality I was buying anyway as there was nothing else I wanted. But was a nice thought that it was rare and was to be savoured. I still enjoy the car but Toyota don't half try hard to sour the experience with all that's gone on, even months later.
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Personally, I never viewed it that way.
I don't believe Toyota ever published a sales target, just vagueness like 'when they're gone they're gone'. I seem to remember some of the early guesstimates were a couple of thousand, and even now, it looks like the total will be under that.
That makes it still a pretty rare car.
Plus its value is in what it is, how it drives, its physical characteristics... I doubt very much whether there being 1000 or 2000 will make much difference to its desirability.
 
KobayashiMaru86 said:
It never bothered me initially as I've still bought to keep but then I grew to like the idea of a rare car, after Toyota pushing it so heavily, only to lie and bring loads more in. But we all know they lie a lot, just look at the alarm and sensors fiasco. Parts availability aren't an issue as it shares a lot with the GT and the oil filter is a bog standard Subaru one used on a few cars. As for low numbers, the special edition Fabia vRS in race blue was set at 1000 and they all got numbered. The only saving grace is first batch was cheaper. Knowing Toyota they'll release a special edition right at the end with more bits which will affect the value of the others.
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They’ll offer the anniversary edition which may be enough to tip me over the edge , especially if it’s in the discontinued blue colour 😡
 
KobayashiMaru86 said:
What I'm trying to get at is all those were offered as a special edition at the end of the run. If everyone paid up for the 1000, then they decided to do another 2000, the owners would be annoyed. The idea of this being rare and special was pushed hard, even if in reality I was buying anyway as there was nothing else I wanted. But was a nice thought that it was rare and was to be savoured. I still enjoy the car but Toyota don't half try hard to sour the experience with all that's gone on, even months later.
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Toyota UK from my interactions so far seem to have incompetence, arrogance, misrepresentation and disinterest as the 4 main pillars of their customer service experience. I’ll definitely never buy another one of their cars after their behaviour so far. Fantastic car sadly represented by a bunch of muppets as our local market importers.

I’m definitely in the camp that didn’t buy it as an investment prospect, it was always about what it represented as a product and driving experience. It offered a fairly back to basics more involving drive, minus the nonsense that comes with most modern cars. With the lack of rust, scene/rarity tax and potential for poor maintenance or accident damage inflicted by previous owners that are part and parcel of an older car.

That all said Toyota UK have definitely played the tactic of using the alleged rarity to drive sales. I don’t think I’m alone feeling it would definitely add to the sourness of the buying experience if they continued to pump out a huge number of additional registrations or worse yet a better specced model in the coming months/years.
 
I've just had an excellent drive home after an outstanding pie at the pub, so I'm in a good mood. Therefore let's reflect on the positives of there being more GR86s than we thought there would be:
  • More cars to encounter in the wild and more owners to wave at.
  • Increased parts availability (windscreens, oil filters, mudguards etc.).
  • Possibly cheaper insurance.
  • More owners to engage in witty badinage with, including via a more active GR-ZOO forum.
  • More opportunities for owner meets, for example enjoying some pizza and dirty fries at Caffeine & Machine.
  • Increased awareness of the car amongst the keen and casual car enthusiast, hopefully leading to a reduction and eventual cessation of having to tell people it's not a Supra, BMW, or Subaru*
*Even though it sort of is
 
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Silver Fox said:
Increased awareness of the car amongst the keen and casual car enthusiast, hopefully leading to a reduction and eventual cessation of having to tell people it's not a Supra, BMW, or Subaru*
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My neighbour said they liked my new Sue Bar Rue. I said thanks. It didn't feel right correcting them, when they were basically correct.
 
Subaru USA 2024 offering will include the BRZ tS
  • STI-tuned sport suspension
  • Brembo® high-performance braking system
  • 18-inch dark gray metallic-finish alloy wheels
  • Leather/Ultrasuede®-trimmed upholstery with blue contrast stitching
  • STI-design instrument cluster with red metallic accents
https://www.subaru.com/vehicles/brz.html

A GR86+ of some kind inevitable. Only question; will it come to the UK?
 
The car is only going to be sold for a few more months over here, we didn't get any options other than colour and gearbox. The likelihood is zero, Subaru also operate independently from Toyota, they had the tS out before and Toyota didn't bring out an equivalent for years.
 
Silver Fox said:
I've just had an excellent drive home after an outstanding pie at the pub, so I'm in a good mood. Therefore let's reflect on the positives of there being more GR86s than we thought there would be:
  • More cars to encounter in the wild and more owners to wave at.
  • Increased parts availability (windscreens, oil filters, mudguards etc.).
  • Possibly cheaper insurance.
  • More owners to engage in witty badinage with, including via a more active GR-ZOO forum.
  • More opportunities for owner meets, for example enjoying some pizza and dirty fries at Caffeine & Machine.
  • Increased awareness of the car amongst the keen and casual car enthusiast, hopefully leading to a reduction and eventual cessation of having to tell people it's not a Supra, BMW, or Subaru*
*Even though it sort of is
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One more,

• Lower thefts?
 
Triggaaar said:
What happened to 'won't be sold after 2023'?
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When I booked my car in the first week of December, I was told by the dealer that all 4 remaining cars would have to be registered in December itself due to regulation changes. Last week when I went to collect mine I asked what happens to any leftover cars in Jan, he told me that they would still sell it. 😂
 
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