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Interesting observation and it looks like that. might be due to GPF for Europe in the exhaust length or the USA regulations, something i remember from Porsche having a bump stop in the licence plate for rear end collision regulationsBoth front and black plates drilled, hope they listen to those of us asking them not to do that on ours!
Nice to see our exhausts appear to stick out the correct amount as well, unlike the US cars.
I’m pretty sure it’s a USA rear end collision regulation. I know a lot of US owners have just loosened the end pipes and extended them an inch or so to help the aesthetics.Interesting observation and it looks like that. might be due to GPF for Europe in the exhaust length or the USA regulations, something i remember from Porsche having a bump stop in the licence plate for rear end collision regulations
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Interesting observation and it looks like that. might be due to GPF for Europe in the exhaust length or the USA regulations, something i remember from Porsche having a bump stop in the licence plate for rear end collision regulations
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It isn't mandatory. Emissions regs do not stipulate specific uses of technology, only defined limits, what manufacturers do to get to those limits is up to them.Our cars will have a GPF, it’s a legal requirement these days.
Never knew that, thought it was mandatory like DPF’s. GR and late GT86’s must be one of the last petrol engines to not have them.It isn't mandatory. Emissions regs do not stipulate specific uses of technology, only defined limits, what manufacturers do to get to those limits is up to them.
Direct injection engines tend to be those that really require it. Toyota have the D4-S injection system up their sleeve, which is probably why one isn't fitted.
Yes, the rate for all new petrol cars under £40k list - after year one which is included in the OTR price - is £165 p/a.Will be interesting to see what the tax ends up being. Didn't someone say about £165/yr? A 13 plate 86 is £290
As long as it’s registered before any changes happen, it will stay in the £165 bracket =]Yes, the rate for all new petrol cars under £40k list - after year one which is included in the OTR price - is £165 p/a.
Tax rates link
For now anyway; who knows what future budgets may bring!
I just did same comparison, U.K. looks much betterInteresting observation and it looks like that. might be due to GPF for Europe in the exhaust length or the USA regulations, something i remember from Porsche having a bump stop in the licence plate for rear end collision regulations
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And we have to pay £1420 for the first time ?Yes, the rate for all new petrol cars under £40k list - after year one which is included in the OTR price - is £165 p/a.
Tax rates link
For now anyway; who knows what future budgets may bring!
The first tax is included in the price of the car! Part of the OTR chargesAnd we have to pay £1420 for the first time ?
Agreed. Once it got in a big mag or on Top Gear it would be gone. A long time ago I was debating getting a Fiesta ST (moment of weakness) after seeing it on Top Gear. Went to dealer who wouldn't even give test drive as "they sell without, why bother".At Toyota did it the right way round, imagine releasing them to all the journos first, hype it up on social media and all over the internet then open the order books, would have sold out in seconds.
Body Exterior Engineer for JLR here, can confirm its to do with what we call 'exterior projections' (basically how far things stick out). The US has specific rear impact regulations (because when most bay park they go front in, so they reverse out and may hit someone) so if you have a certain element sticking out by X mm, you would have to have the god awful bumper extensions fitted. Toyota probably did the maths and worked out it would be cheaper to have a single spec bumper and two exhuast specs than two bumper specs and one exhuast, plus its so uglyInteresting observation and it looks like that. might be due to GPF for Europe in the exhaust length or the USA regulations, something i remember from Porsche having a bump stop in the licence plate for rear end collision regulations
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Body Exterior Engineer for JLR here, can confirm its to do with what we call 'exterior projections' (basically how far things stick out). The US has specific rear impact regulations (because when most bay park they go front in, so they reverse out and may hit someone) so if you have a certain element sticking out by X mm, you would have to have the god awful bumper extensions fitted. Toyota probably did the maths and worked out it would be cheaper to have a single spec bumper and two exhuast specs than two bumper specs and one exhuast, plus its so ugly![]()