GR86 Phone holder solutions

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As title really. The GR86 had Android Auto but it's not wireless. Which means I am going to have to get the phone out of my pocket and physically plug it in pretty much everytime I get in the car, like some sort of caveman. I really can't tolerate such stone age behaviour.

What I'm after is a phone mount cradle which has a USB connection built in, so I can just pop the phone into it and have it connect. It doesn't need to be mounted in my eyeline....just somewhere I can easily reach when I enter or exit the car. And somewhere where I can tuck a USB cable from it to the USB sockets under the armrest.

Does anyone know of any decent solutions that manage this? I can find plenty of phone holders, but not with connectors.

And yes, I know you can buy wireless dongles so you don't have to bother with wires at all. However my experience with wireless AA with my old headunit was that whilst very elegant, it caused very hefty battery drain. I tried alleviating it with a wireless charge pad, but that was prone to overheating. So the best solution for long drives tended to be...just plugging the bloody phone in anyway.
 
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I was thinking of putting together some kind of pouch to keep the phone in, possibly attached to the transmission tunnel. Keen to hear better ideas though!
 
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The nearest I've found so far is Brodit style clips. But they only seem to have a 12v socket so are obviously for charging only, not data transfer, so can't be used to connect to the headunit.

I can't believe such a product doesn't already exist. Surely AA and Carplay are pretty common now, especially wired. There's plenty of desktop charging docks with built in connectors, I'd be happy to use one of those if it would fit in the car somewhere and supported data too.
 
The Brodit mounts with the 12v (cigarette) plugs; unplugs leaving you a USB-A and will connect to a headunit like any normal usb cable.
 
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The Brodit mounts with the 12v (cigarette) plugs; unplugs leaving you a USB-A and will connect to a headunit like any normal usb cable.
Aha! That might be the answer then. However...do the Brodit mounts require drilling of the dash?
 
I have used Brodit on a huge variety of cars and phones over the course of 10-15 years.

I don't think you'll best it.

Covers so many cars and gives you multiple options for mounting although haven't checked for GR....
 
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I'm going to use one of these. i have one in my current hyundai i20N and its great...


Gonna put it on the right side of the gear stick, and just run an apple cable from drinks holder to it, under the trim of the gearbox/middle panel.

Advantage is when you dont need your apple/android plugged in, its not obtrusive in anyway.
 
What's wrong with plugging it into the USB connector in the centre arm rest? AA mirrors your phone nicely and shouldn't be even touching a phone whilst driving anyway so removes that temptation.

Yeah I thought that was the whole reason for AA/Carplay 😅

Doing it wireless is smart but kills the battery for when you actually need it outside the car.
 
What's wrong with plugging it into the USB connector in the centre arm rest? AA mirrors your phone nicely and shouldn't be even touching a phone whilst driving anyway so removes that temptation.
I'm not sure you've understood the (admittedly very minor) problem I'm trying to overcome. This is probably because you are a normal human being, not a picky t**t, like me.

I am lazy. I like to get in my car and drive off with minimal effort. I love Android Auto, but one of the reasons I don't use it often in my girlfriends car, is because I have to get the phone out of my pocket and plug it in, an action which required using both hands. Then I have to put the phone somewhere it wont slide about, and fiddle with the cable to make sure it's not going to get in the way of the gear selector, etc. All this means if I am just making a short drive somewhere, I often don't bother, or don't remember until I've already pulled away, and then I think to myself "sod it", and just put the radio on rather than pull over to fumble with the phone to plug it in. Its why when I upgraded the head unit in my GT86, I opted for wireless AA - just get in the car and it connects with the phone still in my pocket seamlessly, so even if I forget, I still have AA access - but it does lead to higher battery use.

Hence the thread. If the new car has wired AA again, it would be nice to have a phone mount which is already plugged into the armrest. Then, when I get in the car, the only thing I have to do is drop my phone into it and off we go. Not plug the phone in, tuck it away in the armrest neatly, get annoyed trying to tuck the cable away neatly as well, and then forget about it when I get out of my car at the destination.

I don't want to touch or interact with the phone while driving - that's why I said "It doesn't need to be mounted in my eyeline". I don't need a mount which makes the phone easily accessible while driving, just something fixed and accessible enough that when I jump in the car, attaching the phone is as simple as dropping it into the mount and pushing it down onto the connector with one hand. And then when I arrive at destination, just grab the phone and put it back in my pocket.

I am just trying to look for a solution which makes connecting to the car as easy as possible. Wireless would be the ultimate solution, but as I said, often comes with huge battery drain. So if I'm to stick with having to plug the phone in somewhere, I'd like it to be something which takes absolutely minimal effort - otherwise the end result is I end up just not bothering sometimes.
 
I've not looked into this in any way, but I was thinking maybe get the cupholder/storage bin that you get in front of the armrest in the automatic, and fit a desktop type cradle into it.
 
I'm not sure you've understood the (admittedly very minor) problem I'm trying to overcome. This is probably because you are a normal human being, not a picky t**t, like me.

I've had a crap morning work wise and that gave me a little chuckle - thanks! 🤪 (I can be a picky t**t too, don't worry)

I had an old 7 series years ago - maybe get a brodit type mount and fix it in / next to the middle arm rest like that had? Could be a "slide - click" job like the above post suggests:
 

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I've had a crap morning work wise and that gave me a little chuckle - thanks! 🤪 (I can be a picky t**t too, don't worry)

I had an old 7 series years ago - maybe get a brodit type mount and fix it in / next to the middle arm rest like that had? Could be a "slide - click" job like the above post suggests:
Yes, currently that might be the best option. If I understand correctly, Brodit mounts are supplied in two pieces. You buy a mount specific to the phone, but even if they don't do the GR-specific clip that it attaches to, I could just take the phone holder and stick it somewhere down on the side of the transmission tunnel. Out of the way, but close to hand.
 
UPDATE TIME! Bet you've all been waiting for this one.

Think I've managed to solve this problem, albeit in a rather Heath Robinson fashion, and thought I'd share, for anyone who wishes to replicate this level of anal retention. First off, thanks to those who mentioned Brodit. At the time, although they didn't offer a GR86 mount (predictably, they started selling one for the GR86 about 2 days after I ordered the phone holder - however, their mount fits over the air vent, and the whole point of this thread was that I wanted something tucked away and not super obvious) but I started to look at the phone holders themselves, and ended up ordering this - https://www.brodit.co.uk/brodit/holders/_/_/521843.htm

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It's an adjustable holder with built in USB. It's a very simple, but well built design. There are two screws on the face which you slacken off, and this allows the sides to be moved in or out, depending on how wide your phone is. The USB plug is also rigid, but has a similar screw allowing for adjustment. So, loosen the screws, drop your phone into it, get the size right, and then tighten the screws - bingo, the phone now fits the holder perfectly. I should note, they do make fixed holders for nearly every handset; however, as I discovered after ordering, they are completely fixed and have no allowance for phone cases, and my phone has a bumper case which I can't do without really. Luckily, I'd only removed it from the packet before realising, so was able to return it for a refund and order the adjustable version.

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The idea is that you then attach the phone holder to the mounting plate that fits your vehicle, using the ball mount on the back - it has a flat plate with 4 screw holes....

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As I wasn't bothered about having the phone mounted in my eyeline, I had planned to see if I could remove this ball mount and just stick the bit holding the phone to the dash. Unfortunately, to do that means taking out the two set screws which allow adjustability, and that means it doesn't hold together very well. This means leaving the ball mount in place and instead attempting to stick the holder to the dash using trim tape attached to the flat surface which is designed to be screwed to the Brodit vehicle mount. I didn't think this would work - it takes a far amount of force to push the phone home into the USB socket, and I thought the additional bulk of that mount would mean it would just be levered off wherever it was stuck to. But figured I'd give it a try.

To the car! [*transition*]

In the car, I was looking for somewhere I could mount the phone. Space is limited, but as I said, I don't really need the phone somewhere I can see it - just somewhere I can place/retrieve it from easily. I was looking around on the centre console next to the gear lever, but settled on placing it on the cowling next to the steering wheel, so that while in the holder, the top of the phone is next to the start button. I cut two pieces of extra strong number plate tape, put them on the back of the mounting plate, and just stuck it directly to the trim. So far, it seems to be holding securely!

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Then it was just a case of tucking the wire up behind the knee pad, and then running it along the centre console tucked behind the trim, and then up and over into arm rest where the USB sockets are. This is the only bit I don't like at the moment - there's no way into the armrest except for going through the top. It would be nice if there was a way to run the cable in from the bottom so it's completely hidden, but doesn't look like that will be possible. without drilling holes and I'm not prepared to do that.

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And hey presto! All done. I've given it a couple of test runs, and so far, the adhesive tape is holding with enough force that I can simply slide the phone into the holder and press down, without having to use a second hand. And the same for when withdrawing it. The phone is mounted down out of the way and out of sight, but being right next to the start/stop button, I'm unlikely to forget about it when exiting the car. In my driving position, it's not in the way at all.

I took some pictures with my SLR to show the context of how it looks with the phone in place. I'm no David Bailey with a proper camera, especially on dark interior shots, so excuse the quality, but you get the idea.

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That brodit is a nice solution but £70! 😬

For anyone looking to make a custom solution here are a couple of male usb-c panel mount cables.

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1 screw
Yup, true. Expensive. But it was the only thing I could find which actually did what I wanted. Most other phone holders were wireless, so if you wanted to plug the phone in, you'd have to do it yourself, which is a bit of a faff.

As another update, although I did this so I could easily plug the phone in for Android Auto, I have since decided to order Carsifi to try Wireless AA. This doesn't make the phone holder redundant though; it came with a fast charge 12v socket included. If the Carsifi works, I'll re-route the USB cable from the holder, behind the dashboard, to the glovebox and keep it plugged in to the charger. That should give me the best of both worlds - wireless AA for short trips, but for longer trips, I can still quickly and easily drop the phone into the holder and have it fast charge (as wireless AA can be a horrendous battery drain).