GR86 GR86 - The “Auto Zone”

I have a feel the gr would not allow me to shift down to first gear while the car is moving (I believe the speed was around 30-35 mph. I just tried this as my old gt 86 used allow me to go down to 1st and rev the hell out of the engine. You can start with first and ring the engine but once you are moving and are at higher gears then it denies the very lowest gear. I guess the new car has more torque and power so the designers felt shifting down to low gears were not necessary?
In any case, this is not a problem for me in real life.
 
Had another play on the way home today, if you try and downshift at too high rpm you get a disapproving beep from the car and it doesn’t shift
Kickdown from 40 to 70 was impressive 😎
 
Had another play on the way home today, if you try and downshift at too high rpm you get a disapproving beep from the car and it doesn’t shift
Kickdown from 40 to 70 was impressive 😎
Glad you’re having some fun now its run in 👍Are you using paddles or the shift lever? I tend to alternate depending on how I’m feeling?
 
I am at 850 miles on the clock so, I tried to play with it in manual mode. The car would allow me to go down to 1st just below 30mph. I think above that and if I am coming from higher gear 4,5th then it denies 1st. I don’t know how the programming works. There is torque and speed and selected gear as parameters, so I don’t know why sometimes I get denied 1st and sometimes not. One needs to do some control studies! Anyway the car had loads of power and drama to go around even at 2nd and 3rd gears 🤩
One thing I discovered, that is amazing is, adaptive cruise works even in manual mode which is nice to have. I am trying to stay under 4K rpm, but vary it, and basically choose the rpms in manual mode easily as the car would rev match for any given target speed.
 
I’ve been using the paddles, stick still seems backwards to me
When you say “backwards“ are you referring to the direction for up and down shifts? I can’t remember which way it was in the GT86 I drove 2 years back 🤔
 
When you say “backwards“ are you referring to the direction for up and down shifts? I can’t remember which way it was in the GT86 I drove 2 years back 🤔
Yes, you have to push forward to change up and backwards to change down, complete opposite of body position
 
Yes, you have to push forward to change up and backwards to change down, complete opposite of body position
I got used to it, took a while though
Both paddles and shift lever have their uses. Paddles on the flats and lever for when turning for me in manual mode.
Mind you at roundabouts pop it back to auto mode
 
Yes, you have to push forward to change up and backwards to change down, complete opposite of body position
My last two cars only had paddles so I’ve probably lost any muscle memory so not anticipated any issues. Last two days I’ve spent nearly 3/4 hour in traffic around town on journeys of no more than 2 miles ☹️ fortunately I was in the CEOs C-HR but wouldn‘t fancy it in a manual of any description
 
All my driving is in heavy traffic
They have destroyed the calm lifestyle in Reading. Overbuilt town without infrastructure to cope. The town ideally needs an underground network. On top of that, they started road works in every main road in and around our town at the same time since September. I understand some of this is towards ultra fast broadband cabling but we all know from past years that there is always a good reason to dig up the roads. Rant over! So on top of that last thing I’d wand is to drive a manual car in this town.
If I could move, I would move out of this town to be honest. I envy people who don’t have our traffic issues can actually talk about enjoying manual cars.
 
All my driving is in heavy traffic
They have destroyed the calm lifestyle in Reading. Overbuilt town without infrastructure to cope. The town ideally needs an underground network. On top of that, they started road works in every main road in and around our town at the same time since September. I understand some of this is towards ultra fast broadband cabling but we all know from past years that there is always a good reason to dig up the roads. Rant over! So on top of that last thing I’d wand is to drive a manual car in this town.
If I could move, I would move out of this town to be honest. I envy people who don’t have our traffic issues can actually talk about enjoying manual cars.
Well we get the choice of three ways of changing gear , not one , and a lot less stress in traffic 👍

I‘m interested to see how many autos end up in the 430 allocation , it’s looking like only 5/6% which would be around 25 or less , will probably take until 6 months after the final U.K. car has been delivered to see on DVLA /How Many Left 🤷‍♂️
 
It would be interesting to know indeed.
In the long term the auto ones will be the ones current generation of kids will be able to drive legally I assume. I mean when my little one is getting her licence I don't think she will be learning to drive a manual. It was her request that I 'd pass on this car to her, she asked I get the auto "like with the go carts" ;-)
 
Having a louder exhaust makes it a lot easier to hear when the gearbox shifts while you’re just driving about, and it shifts a lot
 
I'm still running in, got a race day on Sunday. But I had the pleasure of going round a small roundabout a couple of days ago, 14mph, tickled the throttle and got a big slide 😁

I guess that the increased torque from the engine has meant that the diff needed to be a bit tighter, and with cold tyres at low speeds, it skids.
 
Really enjoying
No regrets
Such a little gem.
That is what I thought of the GT86 when I fist got it and rest of 9 years I drove it and I again am in love with my car
So much interest from car guys at work
We have a supra, gr Yaris and now a gr86 to complete the picture at work.
 
Finished running in the car today on the way to Cadwell, then spent the day sprinting. First competitive appearance by a GR86 in the UK? And it was an auto 😁

You get the track to yourself in a sprint race, so it's quite a good technical test of the car, no need to worry about running into anyone else. For me, whether or not the car was good depended a little bit on your point of view.

What I like in a track car is the chassis balance, the feel of the tyres on the road, so that you can maximise the corner and straight-line speeds by being careful with the controls. I really enjoyed the handling of the 86 today, took a few laps to get confident with the new car, but the vsc is really well tuned so you can lose grip but not end up in the wall or get many tenths scrubbed off your lap time.

It was 10 degrees, overcast and dry, so the performance of the PS4s would be ok, not going to get them hot but not stone cold either. I was trying the launches and it turns out that if you put your feet on both pedals, it spins up the rears. So you need left foot on the brake, start to press the accelerator and then let go of the brake. Even so, if you turn off the traction control so that the engine doesn't bog down, it wheel-spins for 20m or so. I like that 😁 Because the start line had a little camber, you ended up leaving it sideways.

The course had tyre and cone chicanes on the straights today for a bit of variety, but I thought the car felt very agile and nipped through those pretty well.

I tried letting the car select gears on the first run with sport mode, but preferred to use the paddles after that. I thought the shifts were good, but as we suspected, it's a little conservative on the downshifts and won't shift until the revs will land around 5000 or lower.

Where some people might be a little disappointed is with the engine. The claim is that the response of the n/a engine is good, and it sort-of is because the throttle map is silly responsive. It would be a little easier to control if it was more progressive. And unfortunately, the engine doesn't really deliver on the promise of that initial response, for me. Pulls ok to the redline but it's just good rather than great.

The supercharged engine in my old Yaris GRMN really made the car special, only 210bhp but the tune was so good. You could pootle around town and then boot it to get all the power at once, with no modes, all one map.

Sales of the GT86 were not thought to be that great, and I think the reason for that is that most potential customers are more concerned about the engine than the chassis. Hence me saying whether or not you think the car is good on track depends on whether you are an engine or chassis person. On a track day, you are going to get lapped by a lot of stuff out there, but if you don't care about the lap time and want to enjoy the handling, then for me it's superb.

I had a good battle all day with a competitor running a lightly-tuned manual GT86. He had PS4 tyres on the stock 17s and intake/headers with a remap from Fensport. The two cars were quite close, straight line and cornering speeds would probably be pretty similar. But we were solidly towards the lower end of the leaderboard, a Mclaren 720S winning our 2l+ n/a class 😭

The results are here: http://www.vola-racing.com/msportspro/javelintrackdays/

Check the Ranking tab, final order is based on all the lap times added together. Many competitors were running quite modified cars and most were on semi-slicks, so bear that in mind when looking at the times. I might be able to run semi-slicks at the next round.

Off the track, I drove seven hours today to get to Cadwell and back. Car was great on the motorway, Subaru Eyesight is a modern miracle, even worked very well in the dark (y) Android auto maps on my Moto G10 phone disconnected a couple of times, but I rebooted and it was fine afterwards.

TL;DR Think I'll keep the car 😁
 
Finished running in the car today on the way to Cadwell, then spent the day sprinting. First competitive appearance by a GR86 in the UK? And it was an auto 😁

You get the track to yourself in a sprint race, so it's quite a good technical test of the car, no need to worry about running into anyone else. For me, whether or not the car was good depended a little bit on your point of view.

What I like in a track car is the chassis balance, the feel of the tyres on the road, so that you can maximise the corner and straight-line speeds by being careful with the controls. I really enjoyed the handling of the 86 today, took a few laps to get confident with the new car, but the vsc is really well tuned so you can lose grip but not end up in the wall or get many tenths scrubbed off your lap time.

It was 10 degrees, overcast and dry, so the performance of the PS4s would be ok, not going to get them hot but not stone cold either. I was trying the launches and it turns out that if you put your feet on both pedals, it spins up the rears. So you need left foot on the brake, start to press the accelerator and then let go of the brake. Even so, if you turn off the traction control so that the engine doesn't bog down, it wheel-spins for 20m or so. I like that 😁 Because the start line had a little camber, you ended up leaving it sideways.

The course had tyre and cone chicanes on the straights today for a bit of variety, but I thought the car felt very agile and nipped through those pretty well.

I tried letting the car select gears on the first run with sport mode, but preferred to use the paddles after that. I thought the shifts were good, but as we suspected, it's a little conservative on the downshifts and won't shift until the revs will land around 5000 or lower.

Where some people might be a little disappointed is with the engine. The claim is that the response of the n/a engine is good, and it sort-of is because the throttle map is silly responsive. It would be a little easier to control if it was more progressive. And unfortunately, the engine doesn't really deliver on the promise of that initial response, for me. Pulls ok to the redline but it's just good rather than great.

The supercharged engine in my old Yaris GRMN really made the car special, only 210bhp but the tune was so good. You could pootle around town and then boot it to get all the power at once, with no modes, all one map.

Sales of the GT86 were not thought to be that great, and I think the reason for that is that most potential customers are more concerned about the engine than the chassis. Hence me saying whether or not you think the car is good on track depends on whether you are an engine or chassis person. On a track day, you are going to get lapped by a lot of stuff out there, but if you don't care about the lap time and want to enjoy the handling, then for me it's superb.

I had a good battle all day with a competitor running a lightly-tuned manual GT86. He had PS4 tyres on the stock 17s and intake/headers with a remap from Fensport. The two cars were quite close, straight line and cornering speeds would probably be pretty similar. But we were solidly towards the lower end of the leaderboard, a Mclaren 720S winning our 2l+ n/a class 😭

The results are here: http://www.vola-racing.com/msportspro/javelintrackdays/

Check the Ranking tab, final order is based on all the lap times added together. Many competitors were running quite modified cars and most were on semi-slicks, so bear that in mind when looking at the times. I might be able to run semi-slicks at the next round.

Off the track, I drove seven hours today to get to Cadwell and back. Car was great on the motorway, Subaru Eyesight is a modern miracle, even worked very well in the dark (y) Android auto maps on my Moto G10 phone disconnected a couple of times, but I rebooted and it was fine afterwards.

TL;DR Think I'll keep the car 😁
Great post @PaulT 👍sounds like I’ve got another Timeline Entry , and I love Cadwell , as a spectator 😎. What you say about the box preventing down changes above 5000 is consistent with posts on US forums, which may also account for why no one has blown the engine on an auto equipped car in the US 🤔.

How did you find the bite point on the paddles , will it need fettling with new springs 🤔😂😂😂
 
@PaulT , You got it 🥇🏆

 
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