Araf
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You've got a point and there's also the image which comes with the territory. I've previously had Alpinas rather than M cars, for similar reasons....and probably less likely to be thrashed
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You've got a point and there's also the image which comes with the territory. I've previously had Alpinas rather than M cars, for similar reasons....and probably less likely to be thrashed
There's hell of a lot of second hand low mileage GRYs sat around for months on end that aren't selling. It's a limited market especially when people research the price of brake discs etc. The car has to be more than money, it's about fun. Mines a standard spec, apart from tyres springs/spacers and I love racing other cars on the road. Puts a grin on my face every time I use it. And yes, it's thrashedIt does happen. Desires change. More often than not though rare means nobody wanted it then so nobody wants it now.
There's hell of a lot of second hand low mileage GRYs sat around for months on end that aren't selling. It's a limited market especially when people research the price of brake discs etc. The car has to be more than money, it's about fun. Mines a standard spec, apart from tyres springs/spacers and I love racing other cars on the road. Puts a grin on my face every time I use it. And yes, it's thrashed
Either way, it's a great car to use daily, brilliant in icy conditions, great in the wet and economical if driven carefully (which is rarely). Bring on the snowI suspect part of the problem is that people are holding out for more to be made, when they officially say stop I suspect people will start picking up the used cars in bigger numbers.
I’m considering buying a convenience pack and would appreciate real world thoughts. I had a Circuit Pack (one of the early ish ones) and moved it on at a year old. I’m genuinely not sure as a day to day car the CP goodies made any difference to the driving experience so hence my question,
Does anyone use one or even comparative back to back with a CP?
- Love the look of the Enkei wheels (although they're a bastard to clean, and I know the CiP wheels are objectively 'better')
True, but they look so good.That's the biggest failing of the CoP; the wheels are a nightmare to keep clean
I test drove a standard/base GR and now own a Circuit Pack. I didn't notice any difference in the driving experience, although the test drive was at lunch time in and around west Edinburgh! I don't really see why anyone would go for the base model, but can see how the Convenience pack would be... convenient.. for your needs. I'd have gone for the full combined spec too if available.On the track, there have been comparisons between the CiP and the CoP/Standard car. Pistonheads were meant to have done an on-the-road comparison, but it was an awful piece and I'm not sure they actually compared two cars, and instead made lots of incorrect assumptions.
The mantra early on from a lot of the reviewers was "you'd be an idiot to get anything other than the circuit pack", said by people who hadn't driven anything other than the circuit pack. There are a handful of people who have driven a CiP and a non-CiP in the UK to compare them. I'm not sure there are (m)any who have owned both and driven them on the road and lived with them for an extended period to truly compare them.
I was one of the 146 (ish) idiots who went for the CoP car. I'm very happy that I did, and I think if I'd gone for the CiP or indeed the Standard pack, I'd have been happy too. It's a cracking car. There are many who aren't satisfied with the car in any of the 'out of the factory' formats - and so change the wheels, tyres, suspension, exhaust, intake, brakes, etc. So it's definitely a case of each to their own.
I use mine as a daily driver, doing about 12,000 miles a year. I'm not going to be tracking it, although I do fancy one of these driving limit days that have been organised on here.
Why did I pick the CoP car, and what do I like about it?
What it wrong/missing?
- It's a GR Yaris - they're bloody good cars, especially on the B-roads round here
- The HUD, think all cars should have one
- Sound system is pretty good (once the speakers loosened up)
- I definitely appreciate the parking sensors, blind spot monitoring, and rear-traffic alert when driving on busy city streets
- Suspension feels great on all surfaces (to be fair, the CiP felt really good on my test drive as well on pot-holed city streets)
- Love the look of the Enkei wheels (although they're a bastard to clean, and I know the CiP wheels are objectively 'better')
- Tyres - heard lots of bad things about the Dunlops, but they've been great on wet roads, and I'll be trying something different when they need changing, but not because I'm unhappy with them
- It's a GR Yaris.
Just my 2ps-worth.
- The LSDs, obviously. If I could have had the JDM-spec car, like many, that's what I'd have gone for - with everything on it.
- The Toyota sat-nav isn't great - it's good, but I prefer to use Waze. Anecdotally, it appears that the presence of the Toyota sat-nav does improve the road-sign recognition though. If Toyota can show the 'next-step' instructions on the HUD like they do with the Toyota sat-nav, then that would be even better.
- Red brake-callipers - who doesn't like them?
- The ability to set the iMT to always on at start-up, with lane-assist off by default, etc. - but that's all the GRYs!
- A driver who would get the most out of the car and appreciate the LSDs and better handling!
The standard model will drive like the CoP, but is a few grand cheaper - makes a lot of sense for many I think. Especially if people are intending to change their wheels, etc.I test drove
I test drove a standard/base GR and now own a Circuit Pack. I didn't notice any difference in the driving experience, although the test drive was at lunch time in and around west Edinburgh! I don't really see why anyone would go for the base model, but can see how the Convenience pack would be... convenient.. for your needs. I'd have gone for the full combined spec too if available.
Think you've answered yourself here.I test drove
I test drove a standard/base GR and now own a Circuit Pack. I didn't notice any difference in the driving experience,
Snap. No regrets, but I’d have been totally happy with the standard car.Yep confession time. I only went for circuit for the forged wheels and LSD's; it all looked such great value.
I probably wouldn't notice the difference on the road either.
Absolutely same. It felt like something would conceptionally missing without this.Yep confession time. I only went for circuit for the forged wheels and LSD's; it all looked such great value.
I probably wouldn't notice the difference on the road either.
Until you went to clean the wheels!Snap. No regrets, but I’d have been totally happy with the standard car.
Haha yep! Went for 6 spokes on my winter wheels, so much easier! Shame they are white though… Well, two-tone white and brake-dust-brownUntil you went to clean the wheels!