GR86 Pedal Commander Review

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What is it?
Labelled as a ‘Throttle Response Controller’ the device connects in line/in series with your pedal positioner sensor and the ECU. The position signal from your throttle pedal is intercepted by the Pedal commander device, which in turn outputs its own position signal to the ECU, how the relationship is between the actual throttle position and what Pedal Commander outputs is dependant on what setting you have it configured too.

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It is very simple to install, operate and completely reversible. You will need model 63 for the GR86.

Full detail from their website here: https://pedalcommander.com/pages/product-information

The Device
The device itself is well built and seems pretty robust, the cable and it’s connectors are pretty chunky and fit reassuringly snug, the cable being long enough for the unit to fit under the steering wheel but no further. It’s compact enough to hide away under the dash if you don’t want it in sight, if you were to want to change the settings this way there is a Bluetooth enabled app available (not tested).

Why would I need this?
One of the most common complaints on the manual GR86 is its low-speed driveability around town, the heavily assisted clutch is numb and lacks feel, whilst the throttle has a non linear feel and an odd tip in. The idea of fitting a Pedal Commander is to alleviate this and make it easier to modulate in urban driving.

Installation
Installation will take you no more than 10 minutes, It is simply a case of unplugging the connector off your throttle pedal, plugging the appropriate pedal commander connector in its place, then the remaining connector on to factory throttle position sensor cable. As with anything in the footwell, it is not particularly easy or comfortable to access, those on the larger side or physically impaired may need to employ a ferret like human to assist. I would highly recommend placing a towel over the door sill and side skirt, 1 to save your back, 2 to prevent scuffs.

It is possible to remove the throttle sensor connector in situ with one hand, you’ll need compress the top of the plug firmly to release the clip and remove the plug, however if this doesn’t work, remove the pedal by simply unbolting the 2 10mm nuts holding it in place, with the pedal removed you have enough slack to bring the pedal almost out of the footwell. Take note that the nuts take very little effort to remove, don’t get too excited when refitting these.

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The device comes with a small plastic clip in mount which can be stuck/screwed/tied in place.

Testing
There are 36 available settings on the Pedal Commander, each one adjusting the way the throttle responds. There are 4 settings, ECO, CITY, SPORTS and SPORTS+ each with a further 8 sub settings, ranging from -4 to +4. I will cut to the chase here, out of those 36 you probably have 18 useable settings, as ECO mode limits the travel of the throttle and feels lethargic, then we have SPORTS+ which is completely unusable in day-to-day driving, the simplest tap of the throttle sends the revs rocketing past 4000rpm. The instructions recommend you complete any setting changes whilst stationary, I would agree with this, as changing the settings whilst driving can cause the car to suddenly lurch forward whilst driving (ask me how I know).

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I have spent the majority of miles testing this product driving around town and ultimately that is where the biggest impact is needed, altering the settings from -4 CITY to +4 SPORTS. My conclusion is that Pedal Commander doesn’t offer any tangible improvement in driveability, it is simply different. What I did notice is that the stock throttle has a small dead spot at the first touch of the pedal, when you expect revs to pick up it doesn’t, with any setting on Pedal Commander enabled, this dead spot disappears, so in theory it actually makes the pedal more sensitive, but ever so slightly easier as it reacts proportionately to pedal pressure, this does work nicely with blipping on the throttle on downshifts.

It is worth noting that over the past few months I have been driving the car with a weaker clutch spring. I didn’t consciously think about the throttle after this as to me that low speed driveability issue disappeared. So, is Pedal Commander worth it? I did enjoy that little bit of sensitivity you gain from it but for £200, no it is not, if you want a noticeable improvement in being able to drive the car smoothly at low speeds, save your money, spend a little under £30 and an hour of your time replacing the clutch spring as that makes the most notable difference.
 
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Nice write up, thankyou! I have already installed the clutch spring and didn't think the throttle pedal was too bad - if anything, I found that it felt a little dead at the top , but doing the throttle pedal calibration thing seemed to help with that, just as it did with the old car. Still, I was interested if this Pedal Commander might still offer any benefit, but looks like I can save the money.
 
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Many many thanks for that!

I was considering this device too for the same purpose.
Since its basicly designed for the opposite (making the pedal more sensitve), i doubted, its useful. Because you remap something, that already has been remapped (by factory).

You proved that. Thanks very much.

One question: was the resulting mapping smooth, or with "bumps" (mathematically local minima and maxima) ?
 
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Thanks for the review, while I do want that initial dead spot gone, do I want it bad enough to spend quite this much? Proably not. =/
 
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I have ordered one. The slow speed throttle response is spoiling the car for me. The Wife won't drive it!
 
Because its the better car.
Its a privilege to own both a GR86 & a FK8 & they are completely different cars. The 86 wins on being lighter & more nimble, but has its faults in the Clutch / throttle feel. 90% of the time in my opinion the FK8 is better in every department.
Getting back on topic I will give my view on the Pedal Commander when it arrives.
 
My Pedal Commander has arrived, its fitted & talking to my App. I will give it a week to see if it makes a difference.
 
Lets us know your thoughts BOOSTFAN
 
Been a few weeks now...how are you getting on with it Boostfan? I've had a few moments over the last couple of days where I've noticed the throttle being a bit tricky when driving around town...you press the throttle gently to pull away and there's a bit of a delay which you think is because you've just not pressed hard enough. So you give it some more gas and suddenly it catches up and you lurch forward, then you let off the gas to compensate and then bog down as by now you have let off the clutch a fair way too, and end up kangarooing down the road like it's your first driving lesson again. It's made me think about the pedal commander (or similar) again.
 
Been a few weeks now...how are you getting on with it Boostfan? I've had a few moments over the last couple of days where I've noticed the throttle being a bit tricky when driving around town...you press the throttle gently to pull away and there's a bit of a delay which you think is because you've just not pressed hard enough. So you give it some more gas and suddenly it catches up and you lurch forward, then you let off the gas to compensate and then bog down as by now you have let off the clutch a fair way too, and end up kangarooing down the road like it's your first driving lesson again. It's made me think about the pedal commander (or similar) again.
Hi Conscript,
You have explained the problem very well, it very annoying & shouldn't be like this on a new car.
As other users have noted with the Pedal Commander City-4 helps a little, I wish it could go more on the minus but 4 is the Maximum.
Eco is a complete waste of time & Sport turns it into an animal! I haven't even tried Sport Plus.
The unit feels to me like its more Performance orientated.
I have it talking to my I-Phone which I would say is a must rather than fiddling with the unit under the Dash.
Some members on here swear by changing the Clutch Spring, there is a thread which relates to this.
I would suggest if your handy with a spanner & fit enough to crawl around in the footwell you do this mod first as its the cheapest & easily reversed.
Personally I have always thought the Clutch pedal felt fine & its the very sensitive Throttle mapping that is the problem.
So to sum up I cant fully recommend this unit is curing the problem, I just think the more you drive the car the more you get used to it & this unit is helping a little, could be more fun on a Trackday though!
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Cheers. Yeah I've already swapped out the clutch spring which was a big improvement. Initially thought that was the only thing that needed doing but the throttle does catch me out occasionally.

One thing I might have a check on is the clutch switch. With the old car I remember having issues with the car bogging down in a kind of similar way, it turned out it was because I'd fiddled with the clutch pedal height....but I hadn't adjusted the switch on it correctly; there's a plunger switch which is pushed in by the pedal when it's released And apparently, that has an effect on the ignition (ie, if the clutch pedal isn't all the way up, it pulls engine torque a bit to stop you smoking the clutch). Guessing the same applies with the GR, and although I haven't adjusted the clutch pedal height, I might still take a look at it.
 
Thought I'd chuck my two pence in to this thread, rather than starting a new one.

I managed to borrow the same Pedal Commander that I think @ZN8 had, on loan from someone on the GT86 Owner's Club (I'm not sue if you're on here, but if you are and you read this, many thanks Steve!), which is handy as I didn't want to drop £200 quid on it.

I've had it installed for a couple of days, including doing dull daily stuff, and a bit of a fun drive this morning. I probably haven't done as much testing as ZN8, so I'm not going to be much more thorough; but I don't think there's any need. So far, I have come to pretty much the same conclusions:
- The only mode really worth it is City -4. Everything else is too sensitive. Even City -4 feels more sensitive (or maybe more "responsive" is the better word) than the stock setup. But as already stated, it's not necessarily better....just different. But it certainly takes a lot less throw of the pedal to rev higher.
- However - the device does get rid of the slight dead spot at the top of the pedal, and that is probably the best thing about it. With the PC turned off, if you give the throttle a quick jab and don't stay on it it, nothing happens. Turn it on to City -4 and do the same, and the engine responds.
- This alone does make the car a bit more drivable, it feels like there's less delay between touching the pedal and the car responding, which I found did help me in traffic a bit. When driving fast, it didn't really make much difference (although it does make downshifting/heel-toe easier as you can get more response from a very quick blip of the pedal).

That removal of the slight dead spot really is the biggest advantage of the Pedal Commander; BUT, is that worth £200? I'm not really sure to be honest. If it was £50 quid, I'd probably leave it installed, but it's a hell of a lot of money to fix a minor annoyance which you could probably just get used to. When I went for my drive this morning, I initially had the PC turned on (in City -4), and I thought, "yeah, this is better". But about half way through my drive, I decided to turn it off, thinking I would notice...and to be honest, I didn't. Overall, the stock pedal mapping felt better and like I was having to use more of the travel - I'm convinced it's just that "lagginess" on light throttle which causes the complaints. And you can get around that just by consciously being a bit more confident with the pedal, and learning to ride the clutch a little more when pulling away (which a weaker clutch pedal spring helps with).

I think ZN is right; the improvement is there, but it's nowhere near that which you get from changing to a weaker clutch pedal spring (which is a much cheaper endeavour). I will keep playing with it for a few days, but ultimately, I think I will end up returning it to it's owner.
 
Just watching a recent The Topher video about the GR86. He is one of the first people I saw mentioning the Pedal Commander, as he drives a BRZ and claimed it helped a lot with the throttle mapping. But interestingly, he seems to think that the GR86 has much better throttle out of the box! Perhaps that could explain why we are not finding the PC to be such a big improvement here, as the GR mapping is better anyway? Must admit, I found it surprising; I knew the cars had some subtle suspension differences, but didn't expect them to have different throttle tuning.

Starts talking about it at 10.16 onwards.
 
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