GR86 Jerky acceleration when cold?

When cold is your 86 OK to pull away smoothly and easily?

  • Yes smooth as butter

    Votes: 11 9.5%

  • Not perfect but not an issue

    Votes: 60 51.7%

  • Finding it frustrating but ok to live with it

    Votes: 35 30.2%

  • Jesus Christ its annoying, just stop it, stop it now!

    Votes: 10 8.6%
  • Total voters
    116
SJR202 said:
This might be nonsense, but I was trying to find more info and recently been using chatGPT for info on things and its 99% accurate with what its told me, it also wont give an answer if it isnt 'sure', this might be trawled from non EU/UK websites but my question below and response. Need to follow up with Toyota when I have the chance.

ME: does the toyota GR86 have an issue with throttle mapping?

ChatGPT: There have been some reports of the throttle mapping on the Toyota GR86 being overly aggressive, which can cause the car to feel jerky or difficult to control at low speeds. However, this is largely a matter of personal preference, and some drivers may actually appreciate the more responsive throttle.
That being said, Toyota has acknowledged the issue and has released a software update to improve the throttle response and make it smoother and more predictable. This update is available to owners of affected vehicles through Toyota dealerships, and is recommended for those who have experienced issues with the throttle mapping.
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For the uninitiated what’s “chatGPT” 🤔
 
AndyRC said:
For the uninitiated what’s “chatGPT” 🤔
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It's an artificial intelligence chatbot that's been making the headlines (in tech anyway) over its ability to seem almost human in its responses to questions about nearly any subject.
 
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midlife_sportscar said:
It's an artificial intelligence chatbot that's been making the headlines (in tech anyway) over its ability to seem almost human in its responses to questions about nearly any subject.
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Nahhh , can’t be right 🤔, it actually answered a question , not what we’ve come to expect from the “actual humans” TUK employs 😂😂😂
 
SJR202 said:
This might be nonsense, but I was trying to find more info and recently been using chatGPT for info on things and its 99% accurate with what its told me, it also wont give an answer if it isnt 'sure', this might be trawled from non EU/UK websites but my question below and response.
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I'm interested in AI and this response, so I asked BARD the same thing. It confirmed the throttle response is sensitive, but nothing about the dealer offering a fix. The discussion took a detour when Bard told me the Civic Type R was RWD, but then accepted it's mistake. After some more debate, it suggested that if the throttle was too sensitive then I had bought the wrong car.
All interesting stuff, and there is logic to the response - you can't have your cake and eat it (that would be having a switchable throttle map!)
 
FRAJ said:
I'm interested in AI and this response, so I asked BARD the same thing. It confirmed the throttle response is sensitive, but nothing about the dealer offering a fix. The discussion took a detour when Bard told me the Civic Type R was RWD, but then accepted it's mistake. After some more debate, it suggested that if the throttle was too sensitive then I had bought the wrong car.
All interesting stuff, and there is logic to the response - you can't have your cake and eat it (that would be having a switchable throttle map!)
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This all getting very SciFi on here at the moment........ 😀 👽 👾 👽
 
Ok. I’ve bought into this AI “stuff” so asked my AI friend a couple of questions and got a prompt response 👍😂😂😂


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Thread drift, naughty step risk (again) etc., but I thought I'd check this new fangled ChatGPT out for myself with something that REALLY matters.

Q: Where can I hang a suit in a Toyota GR86?

A: As an AI language model, I do not have personal experience with the physical world, but generally speaking, you can hang a suit in the back seats of the Toyota GR86, either by using a hanger hooked on the back of the driver or passenger seat or by using a suit carrier. Alternatively, you could use the trunk area, folding down the rear seats to provide extra space. Remember to properly secure your suit so it does not wrinkle or slide around during transit.

Well it's better than any 'advice' you lot could come up with anyway...
 
Except I don't think the issue is limited to MT cars. The issue is with the throttle, not the clutch pedal. Granted it might be more noticeable when trying to balance the two, but personally I've only ever noticed the jerkiness when accelerating whilst already in gear . Just pointing it out, so if any AT owners experience the slightly dead throttle pedal at the top, the above fix might work.

Might be worth sticking it in the Useful Info part of the forum maybe? I remember the question coming up several times while owning the GT86, especially from people just after they'd had to disconnect the battery for whatever reason.
 
Looks like the Pedal Commander do-dah has settings from -4 to +4 in each of its modes. I wonder do those minus settings actually reduce throttle sensitivity over stock? In which case this could be the ticket and would de-sensitise the throttle response. A post on one of the Porsche forums suggested that this is the case. (But I guess LESS response is probably not a feature that a lot of folk are looking for, so few people have tested this).
I had a Sprint Booster in another car and it had settings 1-9, all of which added increasing levels of sensitivity, so obvs this product would only make the throttle more sensitive ie. worse in our case.
Or perhaps both the PC and SB do exactly the same thing and they have just labelled their settings using a different scale..?
(Also interestingly, from what I can see (inc. watching Topher’s video with the Pedal Controller in his BRZ) it seems the stock BRZ map has the opposite characteristic to the GR and has a bit of lag and a lazy map - so dead easy to fix with either of the piggy-back controllers)
 
Well I purchased the Pedal Commander and I’m very happy with it, I have it set to City minus 4 and it’s perfect, the Sport plus mode make the throttle crazily sensitive, perhaps useful in a track day, it’s £199 for those in the U.K. I had to remove the 2 x 10mm nuts holding the pedal assembly in place in order to get the loom connector undone, it’s easy to do with the better access, click in the pedal commander, cable tie the excess cable to the under side of the dash, fitted the unit to the dash just under the drivers air pod, looking good, comes with Velcro patches and a cradle, the cradle is bulky so I didn’t use it as the Velcro works perfectly, it’s blue toothed if you want but I liked to have it in a place where I could change settings by the touch of the 3 buttons on the unit face, really simple, I can now drive smoothly without effort, my brother drove the GR86 for the 1st time and managed to drive her smoothly right off the bat, something I really struggled with until I used the Pedal Commander, they are specific for our car, just go to the website and put in our car details, came from Germany with free delivery, no extra taxes, just £199. I was about to buy a spring for the clutch but realised it’s more of a throttle issue, seems I’m right.
 
johnybigarms said:
Well I purchased the Pedal Commander and I’m very happy with it, I have it set to City minus 4 and it’s perfect, the Sport plus mode make the throttle crazily sensitive, perhaps useful in a track day, it’s £199 for those in the U.K. I had to remove the 2 x 10mm nuts holding the pedal assembly in place in order to get the loom connector undone, it’s easy to do with the better access, click in the pedal commander, cable tie the excess cable to the under side of the dash, fitted the unit to the dash just under the drivers air pod, looking good, comes with Velcro patches and a cradle, the cradle is bulky so I didn’t use it as the Velcro works perfectly, it’s blue toothed if you want but I liked to have it in a place where I could change settings by the touch of the 3 buttons on the unit face, really simple, I can now drive smoothly without effort, my brother drove the GR86 for the 1st time and managed to drive her smoothly right off the bat, something I really struggled with until I used the Pedal Commander, they are specific for our car, just go to the website and put in our car details, came from Germany with free delivery, no extra taxes, just £199. I was about to buy a spring for the clutch but realised it’s more of a throttle issue, seems I’m right.
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Thanks for the feedback, I was considering this.

I thought the clutch wasn't as bad as people seemed to make out but thought the throttle had quite an odd calibration to it, not linear.
 
I even bought a spring and have yet to fit it. May not even bother and sell it on as I wasn't convinced it was that bad, even before I ordered. Throttle could be better but is a problem with all new cars.
 
@johnybigarms - good to hear it did what you hoped. I would like to try it, but I'm not spending 200 on what is a small issue so far for me. Having said that, only today I tried to drive around a car park in 1st, clutch fully out, and it started bunny hopping when I feathered the throttle pedal. I swear I know how to drive, but it makes you look like a learner sometimes.
 
FRAJ said:
@johnybigarms - good to hear it did what you hoped. I would like to try it, but I'm not spending 200 on what is a small issue so far for me. Having said that, only today I tried to drive around a car park in 1st, clutch fully out, and it started bunny hopping when I feathered the throttle pedal. I swear I know how to drive, but it makes you look like a learner sometimes.
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Same. I haven't bunny hopped since I was about 17 :D
 
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