GR86 Auto Express Sportscar test

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Hope Steve does a video as well. He is always spot on with his reviews and a great driver
 
That might be because it’s Christmas. You dont need to wrap your car up too!

But seriously, no point in having a drivers car if it doesn’t get driven. Buy another to go with it for an investment if you like, but other investments will probably do better….maybe.
 
Wow.. this is something.. coming from Steve Sutcliffe.. my most favourite and trusted auto journalist.. full stop! ;) :)
 
Please can someone share the front cover of the magazine (for date/edition details). I've got to find a copy somewhere and buy it and bank it.
 
Thanks, must pick this up.
Although predicted £70k future value would be great, I don't think it will reach those dizzy heights especially as JDM imports could still be had in future and imported over to add to the numbers.
 
Absolute pie in the sky valuations and not sure how they work out it will worth more than an R8 in 10 years. Time will tell but if a 10 year old GT86 is circa 10k, not sure how a 10 year old GR86 will be worth 7 times that!

Would be nice for owners, obviously, but that sort of appreciation is a double—edged sword. People start to get nervous about where to park them, putting miles on them, they get more expensive to insure and are ultimately less fun to use for ordinary people for whom they are now worth a relatively large amout of money.
 
70k a bit ambitious, and not worth hiding it away without using it properly for only 4k per year.

However, I predict they will rise in value after 2024

Why?

Fiesta ST gone, Hyundai i30n soon to be killed off. How many others?

Cayman will go electric, TT the same?

In only 5 years time what will you be able to buy new for a sporty, petrol car?

Nothing like an 86, or a GR Yaris, even Lotus are going electric.

Add to that all these new safety things coming in over the next few years. Adding much cost to new vehicles, and taking enjoyment away.

So in 5 years time a GR Yaris, or an 86, with 5 years warranty still in place, will be a very desirable car.

I'm so glad Toyota gave us the GR86, I feel very, very, very, lucky to own one for the rest of my driving days.
 
At the moment Toyota does 10 year warranty if we keep servicing the car with them. I hope they don't discontinue that. It worked well with my GT86 and they did sort out all of its issues in the past 9 years.
 
Pappyjohn said:
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Thanks for sharing this mate! Managed to grab a copy of this and Evo and had a quiet leisurely read after tucking kids in yesterday night. The AE article made the car feel that much more special.. and makes you feel like some sort of esteemed owner of an iconic car.
Felt surreal.. as well as unreal at times. Can it really be that good.. esp. against that competition?
Have my test drive booked for today and now I'm actually worried that it might not live up to the expectations after all the buildup over the past year.
 
This weeks AutoExpress is on the shelves today, where the GR86 goes head to head with the BMW 230i.
No surpises on which comes first... 😀
 
And by a reviewer I trust which is good. There's always somewhere it can be improved but it's about perspective and not taking it down too an extreme path. I know someone who spent thousands on a BMW he now tracks, to the point he hates driving it normally as it's operating window can't be got to on the road. Whatever I change on the 86 it will always be road biased. It has to work on my favourite roads or it's pointless.
 
KobayashiMaru86 said:
And by a reviewer I trust which is good. There's always somewhere it can be improved but it's about perspective and not taking it down too an extreme path. I know someone who spent thousands on a BMW he now tracks, to the point he hates driving it normally as it's operating window can't be got to on the road. Whatever I change on the 86 it will always be road biased. It has to work on my favourite roads or it's pointless.
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I test drove Guildford's demo car earlier this week. Honestly, I wouldn't change a single thing in that car - there is absolutely nothing wrong with it.

As for Steve Sutcliffe, I've always liked him as a reviewer but he's all over the place on what he thinks about the cars he drives (and his eyes water way too much). For example, he was a road tester in AE and EVO COTY, where both mags tested EXACTLY the same cars and his views in both mags are different. Also his reviews of the M4 CSL are just weird - his initial review of the M4 CSL was very positive - one of the most positive reviews in the UK press. His subsequent reviews of it say that it's rubbish - odd!

My view though is that the GR86 is genuinely spectacularly good - one of the absolute best cars I've ever driven. The ride / handling balance is sublime, the feel through the steering wheel and chassis is incredible. The gearchange is brilliant, the brake feel is also amazing - it's about as much fun as you can have on 4 wheels and I've owned some VERY nice cars in my time - I had a 997GTS when they first came out for example (which was also awesome!).
 
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