GR86 Engine Failure

Are you concerned about the GR86 engine failure stories emerging?

  • 1. Not concerned - if it breaks Toyota will fix it

    Votes: 48 39.0%

  • 2. Slightly concerned - but not losing any sleep over it

    Votes: 54 43.9%

  • 3. Iā€™m getting worried - I want to use my car on track

    Votes: 13 10.6%

  • 4. Iā€™m very worried - Iā€™d planned a lot of mods and lots of track use

    Votes: 2 1.6%

  • 5. Iā€™m that worried Iā€™m cancelling - and off to buy something else

    Votes: 6 4.9%
  • Total voters
    123
Our American friends are on this and a forum is starting to keep track of engine failures. Iā€™m sure someone back in Japan must be aware of the issue with all of the social media activity at the moment, often erroneously saying ā€œToyota wouldnā€™t fix my blown engine ā€œ letā€™s see how this evolves šŸ¤”

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GR86 RTV Sealant in Oil Strainer Resulting in Engine...

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Potential Cause of rumored GR86s blown engine? Seal packing(RTV) was peeled off - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community - FT86CLUB

Potential Cause of rumored GR86s blown engine? Seal packing(RTV) was peeled off GR86 General Topics (2nd Gen 2022+ Toyota 86)
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wow that oil in the sump looked...not great!

also from some of the videos you can see sealer further up in the engine from the crankcase etc so it might not just be from the sump face...

face to face with sealer is the new way to build engines these days "with robots" but sometimes a gasket is best :rolleyes:

i think someone has been using a too big a nozzle :eek:
 
Another day another failure.

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Well, having spent a significant amount of my time yesterday and today carefully reading the various articles about the engine failure on Blake Alvarado's Toyota GR86 published online by the likes of Motor Trend, Road & Track and The Drive last week as well as the relevant threads on the FT86Club.com and GR86.org Forums, I trust that - in addition to answering the questions raised in my Post # 4,031 on the GR86 Order List thread - Toyota (GB) PLC (TGB) will also provide us with answers to the following additional questions at some point in the not-too-distant future :

1) How many GR86s are believed to be at risk of being affected by the RTV sealant issue which currently appears to have caused the engine failure on Blake Alvarado's car and when were they built?

2) How many, if any, of the GR86s identified in 1) above are destined for delivery to the reportedly circa. 430 UK-based customers?

3) Will and, if so, when is a Technical Service Bulletin (TSB) likely to be issued by Toyota Motor Corporation and/or TGB addressing the issue?

4) What steps will TGB take to mitigate the risk of any UK-based GR86s sustaining an engine failure of the type sustained by Blake Alvarado's car irrespective of whether or not a TSB has been issued and will that work be undertaken by TGB or by the Toyota Dealer responsible for the handover before delivery?

5) Will TGB confirm that - provided a GR86 is maintained and serviced by a Toyota Dealer every year until the car has either covered 100,000 miles or is ten-years old - the Relax Warranty will cover any work rectifying an engine failure attributable to the RTV sealant issue at any time during that ten-year period?

Finally, here are a couple of additional points:

- The GR86 is targeted at the enthusiast Gazoo Racing community - most of whom will already be aware of Blake Alvarado's unfortunate experience. I, for one, do not want the GR86's reputation and - just as importantly - residual values to be forever tainted by the engine failure issue.

- There is a distinction to be made between Blake Alvarado's case and the situation here in the UK - we have all contracted directly with TGB for the purchase of our GR86s so, in other words, no Dealers or Regional Distributors are involved as in the US.

Interestingly, I see that Autocar has today published this article about the issue with the wheel hub bolts working loose on the new Toyota bZ4X - I wonder when the UK-based motoring media will pick up and run with the GR86 issue...
 
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Well, having spent a significant amount of my time yesterday and today carefully reading the various articles about the engine failure on Blake Alvarado's Toyota GR86 published online by the likes of Motor Trend, Road & Track and The Drive last week as well as the relevant threads on the FT86Club.com and GR86.org Forums, I trust that - in addition to answering the questions raised in my Post # 4,031 on the GR86 Order List thread - Toyota (GB) PLC (TGB) will also provide us with answers to the following additional questions at some point in the not-too-distant future :

1) How many GR86s are believed to be at risk of being affected by the RTV sealant issue which currently appears to have caused the engine failure on Blake Alvarado's car and when were they built?

2) How many, if any, of the GR86s identified in 1) above are destined for delivery to the reportedly circa. 430 UK-based customers?

3) Will and, if so, when is a Technical Service Bulletin (TSB) likely to be issued by Toyota Motor Corporation and/or TGB addressing the issue?

4) What steps will TGB take to mitigate the risk of any UK-based GR86s sustaining an engine failure of the type sustained by Blake Alvarado's car irrespective of whether or not a TSB has been issued and will that work be undertaken by TGB or by the Toyota Dealer responsible for the handover before delivery?

5) Will TGB confirm that - provided a GR86 is maintained and serviced by a Toyota Dealer every year until the car has either covered 100,000 miles or is ten-years old - the Relax Warranty will cover any work rectifying an engine failure attributable to the RTV sealant issue at any time during that ten-year period?

Finally, here are a couple of additional points:

- The GR86 is targeted at the enthusiast Gazoo Racing community - most of whom will already be aware of Blake Alvarado's unfortunate experience. I, for one, do not want the GR86's reputation and - just as importantly - residual values to be forever tainted by the engine failure issue.

- There is a distinction to be made between Blake Alvarado's case and the situation here in the UK - we have all contracted directly with TGB for the purchase of our GR86s so, in other words, no Dealers or Regional Distributors are involved as in the US.

Interestingly, I see that Autocar has today published this article about the issue with the wheel hub bolts working loose on the new Toyota bZ4X - I wonder when the UK-based motoring media will pick up and run with the GR86 issue...
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Have you actually put any of these questions to Toyota?
 
doogle83 said:
Have you actually put any of these questions to Toyota?
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No, not as yet... However, I am currently thinking about how best to pursue the matter and am planning to discuss one or two ideas with a professional colleague during the course of this week.
 
The engine issue is definitely gaining traction on social media , someone on Facebook has started to collect data on engine failures. I canā€™t see how Toyota will avoid issuing a recall on this as in all probability if too much RTV was used at some point in time it looks as though it will come away and block the oil strainer and wreck the engine šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø

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I wonder if itā€™s possible to fit a conventional gasket to the oil pan šŸ¤” With all the aftermarket ā€stuffā€ that does absolutely šŸ¤¬er all other than empty your bank account an ā€œold schoolā€ sump gasket that doesnā€™t leak or block the strainer sounds like a good idea šŸ¤”šŸ¤”šŸ¤”
 
Photomike did a followup video where he found RTV in the pickup strainer despite there being no evidence of breakaway in the sump sealant.
So, that would imply there's other joints in the engine that have excess sealant too...
 
midlife_sportscar said:
Photomike did a followup video where he found RTV in the pickup strainer despite there being no evidence of breakaway in the sump sealant.
So, that would imply there's other joints in the engine that have excess sealant too...
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pointless video, no new information. Thx for wasting my time.
 
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