Have thought about it, but yeah, I wouldn't really make use of it. I really can't be arsed to tackle the Dartford Crossing to buy a pallet of cheese wheels or whatever.But £34 for a year's membership might be worth considering if you are 'in the market' for some new tyres ... or 600 toilet rolls and 120 bags of crisps
GR86 GR86 - What wheels and tyres are you thinking about?
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Same here. My 'local' store is 30 miles away on the far side of Edinburgh and a PITA with traffic. I did buy the £15 online store membership a few years ago, just to save £120 on a Keter storage shed. Never used the membership again afterwards.
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But £34 for a year's membership might be worth considering if you are 'in the market' for some new tyres ... or 600 toilet rolls and 120 bags of crisps
The only time I’ve set foot in my “local” one I think you’d do well to escape without a full brace of door dents or worse. The standard of driving and parking on display by the regular mouth breathing patrons was abysmal.But £34 for a year's membership might be worth considering if you are 'in the market' for some new tyres ... or 600 toilet rolls and 120 bags of crisps
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Just ordered set of Michelin CrossClimate2 from camskill in standard size. £495 delivered + £60 off to claim back from Michelin. Thanks @Conscript for heads up.
KobayashiMaru86
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That'll be that dynamic pricing everyone loveswtfhax!
I've been done out of £2.40
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I Still want Tomason TN25’s but not sure I’ll be in Germany/Austria at end of year. Also, not showing stock for bronze. I’ve emailed felgenoutlet to ask if Bronze are coming back.
I spotted these Ultralite Ul37’s. Emailed Guy at SPD Automotive and they are only 9.2kg.
I spotted these Ultralite Ul37’s. Emailed Guy at SPD Automotive and they are only 9.2kg.
I've done a few hundred miles with the new tyres now, including a somewhat spirited drive this morning, so time for a quick appraisal. In short: they are great.
I have said in the past that I have not been all that happy with the stock Michelin PS4. They were not bad, but quite often there were situations where they didn't really inspire confidence. I cant quite put my finger on it, but I had a feeling like the car was up on it's toes all the time, as if the pressure were too high, or I was running Primacy tyres like the old GT. Lowering pressure to 32PSI helped a lot, as did an alignment, but I'd still get that niggling feeling sometimes while out for a drive, the car would feel a little light and not all that planted, sometimes even enough to make me abort a drive because I didn't trust the conditions.
That feeling seems to have gone now. I've just been out for a drive at 5.30AM, it was dry, clear and cold, about 5-6 degrees; no frost, but a bit of dew. Exactly the sort of autumnal conditions where I'd be second guessing the old tyres. With the new ones, I've had no such problem. The car feels much more sure footed to me. I intentionally took a route where I knew there'd be some quite tight turns which might usually make me very cautious, but the car felt more stable and planted through them. And that made the whole drive that much more enjoyable for me; I know some people like a car to move around a bit, but I'm much happier with that secure feeling of grip. As for moving from 215 to 225? If there has been any loss of precision or feel, I'm either not skilled enough, or not driving hard enough, to perceive it. And even if I could, the better grip makes up for it.
The ride is better. Bit less tyre roar, and I'm sure they soak up the little bumps and imperfections in the road better. Not night and day, but feels like it thumps less over road joints, tarmac patches, etc. And that is with the pressures at the stock 35PSI, and the new tyres have a higher load rating (92 XL, as opposed to 87 I think for the PS4, which I ran at 32PSI). Perhaps the higher load rating is why I can't really feel any loss of precision.
Other little plus points - I think the wheel looks better with less stretch and a more square sidewall, and should hopefully make the rims a bit less vulnerable to kerbs, especially as the Goodyear seems to have more chunky rim protection. My speedometer was always pretty accurate, overreading by 1-2MPH at most when compared with GPS....but the slight increase in diameter now means it is absolutely spot on perfect. Which is good for those of us with a little OCD.
Not sure if the improvements are down to switching from Michelin to Goodyear, as opposed to increased tyre size. As I said, the PS4 is in the same segment as the F1AS6 (albeit a generation older), so I didn't really expect a big performance gain. But moving to 225s gave me more options and cost less, so I'll be sticking with that for now.
I have said in the past that I have not been all that happy with the stock Michelin PS4. They were not bad, but quite often there were situations where they didn't really inspire confidence. I cant quite put my finger on it, but I had a feeling like the car was up on it's toes all the time, as if the pressure were too high, or I was running Primacy tyres like the old GT. Lowering pressure to 32PSI helped a lot, as did an alignment, but I'd still get that niggling feeling sometimes while out for a drive, the car would feel a little light and not all that planted, sometimes even enough to make me abort a drive because I didn't trust the conditions.
That feeling seems to have gone now. I've just been out for a drive at 5.30AM, it was dry, clear and cold, about 5-6 degrees; no frost, but a bit of dew. Exactly the sort of autumnal conditions where I'd be second guessing the old tyres. With the new ones, I've had no such problem. The car feels much more sure footed to me. I intentionally took a route where I knew there'd be some quite tight turns which might usually make me very cautious, but the car felt more stable and planted through them. And that made the whole drive that much more enjoyable for me; I know some people like a car to move around a bit, but I'm much happier with that secure feeling of grip. As for moving from 215 to 225? If there has been any loss of precision or feel, I'm either not skilled enough, or not driving hard enough, to perceive it. And even if I could, the better grip makes up for it.
The ride is better. Bit less tyre roar, and I'm sure they soak up the little bumps and imperfections in the road better. Not night and day, but feels like it thumps less over road joints, tarmac patches, etc. And that is with the pressures at the stock 35PSI, and the new tyres have a higher load rating (92 XL, as opposed to 87 I think for the PS4, which I ran at 32PSI). Perhaps the higher load rating is why I can't really feel any loss of precision.
Other little plus points - I think the wheel looks better with less stretch and a more square sidewall, and should hopefully make the rims a bit less vulnerable to kerbs, especially as the Goodyear seems to have more chunky rim protection. My speedometer was always pretty accurate, overreading by 1-2MPH at most when compared with GPS....but the slight increase in diameter now means it is absolutely spot on perfect. Which is good for those of us with a little OCD.
Not sure if the improvements are down to switching from Michelin to Goodyear, as opposed to increased tyre size. As I said, the PS4 is in the same segment as the F1AS6 (albeit a generation older), so I didn't really expect a big performance gain. But moving to 225s gave me more options and cost less, so I'll be sticking with that for now.
Great feedback @Conscript I'm definitely swaying towards these when the time comes. Do you have some more photos of the fitment? I'm quite fussy, I'm not keen on stretch or ballooned sidewalls, I like it when they are flat.
I suppose I should also add that I have camber bolts and a front strut brace, although otherwise my suspension is stock. Just in case anyone is comparing.
Alistair31
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Sonic
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I was gonna save you getting up by posting this for comparison (same size tyres as yours in 225 on stock rims with stock setup, but All Season). Seems that you hauled yourself off the sofa anyway though..
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I have a 2018 340i which runs on F1AS6 and the GR86 on the OEM tyre; I've always been hesitant to make comparisons between the two cars because they're such different machines. However your description perfectly matches the way I'd describe the experience of the respective tyres on each car. Which means I need to get on with wearing out the PS4s on the GR to get some AS6s on it! Thanks for the input.
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